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On1 Raw 2023 - Select None (Deselect) on Edit mode not working

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    No, you are not missing anything. Edit mode is meant for working on one image at a time. If you were able to deselect all there would be no image for the editor to work with and it isn't designed to handle that situation.

    You can open the Filmstrip then use the / key to deselect the currently selected photo assuming you have more than one selected in the Browser. You can also Command/Control-click on them to add or remove specific images from the selected set.

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  • Alfredo

    There is an issue with the thought process on this. Why would One Photo RAW developer allow anyone to "Select All" in the "Edit" module and not to Deselect ALL? 

    I selected all 300 images thinking I could change their rating (removing a color label ), and now I have to click one at a time. The workaround was to go back to the browse module and deselect.

    I spend more time finding workarounds and issues with a solution than doing the work. 

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    I have already explained it to you. You must have at least one image selected before you can go into the editor. It cannot deal with a selection of the zero. There is nothing to edit when there is a selection of zero.

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  • Alfredo

    Brian Lawson, try to do it yourself. You will see what I am talking about - this should not be allowed if the software can't handle a deselect (every photo editor software can take this essential task) 


    note: the image on pink is a bug that I am dealing with
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  • Rick Sammartino Community moderator

    Alfredo, this has been explained TWICE already in this thread. YOU CANNOT DESELECT ALL in Edit. If you did that you would lose the image that you're currently editing.

    Trying to select 300 images in Edit is forcing the module to do something it wasn't designed for. Going back to Browse to fix it is NOT a workaround, it's the proper procedure.

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  • David Tillett
    Great answers

    I suspect that the reason why Select All is available in Edit is for finishing touches such as exporting or printing completed edits, so part of the editing process.

    It sounds as though you are expecting to use PhotoRAW in exactly the same way as another product when it has its own way of working. Edit mode is for editing and immediate post processing tasks such as changing rating or outputting, Browse is for managing images.

    The university I worked for learned an expensive lesson when implementing a new student records system by trying to make it exactly the same as the systems it was replacing, ended up with lots of customisation that made it difficult to implement new releases as they became available and reduced the usefulness of the new system. So trying to make a new application behave in exactly the same way as the old one is just not worth it, learn what it is capable of and you will probably find ways to develop a workflow that meets your needs and which works with the application not against it.

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    I suspect that the reason why Select All is available in Edit is for finishing touches such as exporting or printing completed edits, so part of the editing process.

    Or, for Syncing the edits.

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  • Alfredo

    David Tillett,  I agree with you; I work for a good 500 software company and do photography on the side (because it is a passion). I have used CaptureOne, LR, and Affinity, but I wanted something simpler. 

    From a user perspective, it should not take so many clicks back and forth to accomplish a simple task (regardless of the industry for which the software was developed). I am not saying the other solutions are better or worse.

    I don't see On1 Raw having a large community outside this forum; perhaps very few people provide feedback to improve the product. However, I appreciate the responsiveness from everyone in helping me with the roadblocks I face in my workflow as I adapt to a different way of doing things, even though this new way is slowing me down (facts that can be proven when comparing Photo Raw vs. LR and others). On1 has a sweet spot but is not flawless. 

    I am giving this software an opportunity as a new user. I hope On1 does listen to the user base and keeps up with the competition. Like anything else,  it is just one click to leave. 

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  • Richard

    I don't see On1 Raw having a large community outside this forum; perhaps very few people provide feedback to improve the product.

    Really? In addition to this forum, which is very active, there is a forum on On1 Plus, as well as two user groups on Facebook.

    I have also found the Support Staff to be prompt in responding to questions and feedback submitted directly to them, and let’s not forget the Photo Raw project where users can submit and vote on new suggestions.

    While we may not always agree with how the program works, On1 do indeed listen to feedback from their users. A recent example was their very quick response to requests to bring back the AI Mask. Other examples in years past include the clone tool, and so on ….

    I’d suggest it’s holding its own quite well for a program that arguably has but a fraction of the resources of Adobe. 

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  • Andrew Lowen

    The lack of ability to deselect as a batch drives me crazy too.  You can select all for applying a preset but you can't get out of it if you decide on something else.  They only work around I found is to go back to the browse module to use ctrl-D and then go back to the edit module which is a waste of clicks for sure.

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    Don’t forget about the undo command and the history panel or you can step back and remove the operation that applied that preset. You have to do immediately you can’t do any other editing in between.

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  • Martin de Jong

    First to the issue of Alfredo which is not addressed yet. You were in Edit mode and wanted to change the rating. As explained by Brian and Rick you can't do that there. But you can update the rating, the color tag and all other meta when you are in Browse mode. So if you go there and select all you can update the rating in one click.

    About the rest of the discussion I must say I agree with all of you on this.
    It's clear that you only edit one photo at the time and that you can export all select photos when you ar win the Edit mode. In Browse mode you can select all photos and export them or update the metadata of all. In both cases a simple command would be an outcome. Maybe time for a feature request?

    @Anyway, I found out that when you selected all in the detail view and you want to deselect the you can slide all the wat to the right a click in black area you see there.
    In Browse mode you can scroll to the end of your stack of selected photos and click on an empty place. That will desk all.If there is no free space you can lower the preview size with the slider on the left bottom of the window until there is.

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    "You were in Edit mode and wanted to change the rating. As explained by Brian and Rick you can't do that there" This is another design feature of the program. No matter how many files have been selected, no matter which mode you are in Browser or Editor, when you are viewing a single image any metadata changes like ratings and color tags are applied to only that one image currently being viewed. If you want to do a batch change you must return to the Browser. This is a design philosophy that others may disagree with but it won't do any good. It is how the program works.

    Another option I just thought of for removing a Select All while in the Editor is to Right-click one image in the Filmstrip to remove it from the selection then click it so it becomes the only item selected. Just one item to be viewed meets the requirements for staying in the Editor while removing all the unwanted items from the selected set.

    As I mentioned previously, the abiility to Select All while in the Browser is for Syncing. It is a feature I use all the time when working on panoramas or HDR photos. Do spotting and sharpening to one image, open the Filmstrip and Select All then Sync and everybody starts off on the same foot.

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