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Still having Tack Sharp AI issues with GeForce RTX 2060 Super graphics card

Frank Biganski

I just got around to updating On1 Photo Raw 2023 and although the auto masking issue appears to have been resolved (for the most part, but it still sometimes doesn't select all of the flora or correctly identify the difference between water and beaches), the auto masking works.

Before when I was having AI masking issues, if I selected architecture, the mask preview would look correct but then after applying the mask, the masked areas would be about 50% smaller than it should've been. So I guess, the AI masking "works" as it's intended to.

But the Tack Sharp AI still produces grainy artifacts even if I reduce the auto-sharpness selector from 100% to 30%. See this screenshot at 200% and the issue is noticeable in the sky on the right. You can see the image is clear around the building edges but the rest of the sky is worse than before.
https://app.screencast.com/lUTbVxESZvsNc

On a side note, with each of the previous two updates, after I was prompted to update after launching ON1 2023, the updates failed. So I had to perform a clean install by uninstalling the software, including registries, and performing a clean install.

I'm extremely disappointed I spent money on this software, and I'm removing it and maybe I'll give it a go again in 6-8 months from now.

I'm reverting back to good ol Lightroom and Photoshop using their updated masking and sharpening options, which work incredibly perfect, finished by some additional sharpening and adjustments using Luminar NEO.

Cheers!

~ Frank

 

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  • Caroline Picking

    I've honestly just about given up on Tack Sharp. It almost always seems to make things worse with any 'scape type of photo (usually landscapes for me), even turned right down. That reduces all the weirdness but then doesn't leave any noticeable improvement. I've found it works great on some things - a frosty leaf was much improved. And, because of that, I assume it's Tack Sharp being a disappointment (first iteration, anyway) rather than my nVidia graphics card*. Likewise, sometimes the AI masking is good and sometimes it's terrible - but out of curiosity (and irritation!) I took one such terrible one and chucked it into Luminar Neo, with very nearly identical (bad) results. I think it's just a limitation in what the AI can figure out. Don't have Adobe, so I can't compare.

    (*I'm a bit of a fan of Topaz Photo AI at the moment)

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  • Frank Biganski

    Yeah, it's sad that On1 hasn't followed up with those who contacted them with problems. Even after updating their software along with the NVidia drivers, silence. I basically gave them $90 to be their beta tester.

    I've known of Topaz for years, but I just never got around to trying their software. My workflow worked pretty well with Lightroom, then Photoshop, then sharpening in the old version of On1.

    So I decided to download the trial version of Topaz Photo AI and I am completely blown away! I have a nighttime image that I corrected in Photoshop, adjusting the sharpness and then luminance a bit to get a pretty decent image. Then I imported the image into the trial version of Topaz Photo AI and straight away, the image was beautifully sharpened perfectly!

    https://app.screencast.com/FwaiJNrsxq3Ms

    Thanks for mentioning Topaz Caroline! I'm going to treat myself to an early Christmas present!

    ~ Frank

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