ON1 Raw export/send to reducing sharpness on one photo
I don't think this has happened before - because it's obvious enough to be seen on a zoomed out photos, and I can't think I wouldn't have noticed it. I edited a Fuji RAW in PR and added a few effects (including Dynamic Contrast) and then sent it to Affinity because I wanted to add some text and stuff. But the Affinity version looked so much softer - almost as if PR had made the Dynamic Contrast negative instead of positive. So I exported to a TIFF. Then a DNG. Then a JPG. They all looked identical to each other and very different to the PR edit. I can't imagine why this could be. The exports of this particular photo look duller and softer. Am I missing something obvious? Does anyone have a clue why this happened. I'm as certain as I can be it hasn't happened before - as soon as I switched to Affinity Photo, I knew it was very different.
I used NoNoise, but not Tack Sharp. The only difference with this photo was I started with Linear Raw instead of (my more usual) ON Standard. But obviously I edited everything.
I wrote this all out once before and attached a screenshot. And when I pressed 'Submit' everything vanished (it might just be a 'My Computer Hates Me Today' day) so I'll put a screenie in the next post.
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Here's the screenshot for the above post. It's really obvious on my screen - but I'm not sure it shows up on an embedded picture. Is there a better way to do this?
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There is an obvious difference between the two but we do not know which photo is which as you've cropped out the file titles.
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Genius move of mine! The right one is the edited RAW file pre-export. The left one is the exported file. TIFF or JPG, can't recall which - which doesn't matter, as they were identical (along with the DNG)
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Thanks, that's helpful. Would you care to share your RAW file with its .on1 sidecar file for me to look at? You'll have to zip them together then upload the zip file to a site like Dropbox or WeTransfer and post the download link here.
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Ok, this gets weirder by the minute. Another screenshot, this time zoomed into 200% - because I spotted something on the sheep's head. The RAF file is on the *left* and the JPG on the right. The JPG is actually better here because there are weird zig-zag artefacts on the sheep's head in the RAF file.
This is a new camera - the Fuji X-T5. But the oddity is that, despite the raggedy nature of the RAF file the exported JPG doesn't show the same effect.
It's as if what I'm seeing on screen as I edit isn't accurate but that the accurate file is there somewhere when it's exported.
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Yes, that would be great. I'll do that now - but then I'm afraid I'll disappear, because it's nearly 1am and I have work in the morning! Thank you :)
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I'm not sure what is going on. I'm seeing a slight softening on the .dngs but not on the .tiff or .jpeg files.
Did you use the Background Export option? Whichever you used, have you tried changing that setting to see if it makes any difference?
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I have been experiencing this problem as well. If I export either Tif or Jpg directly from an edited Raw file the exports seem to be much softer than the original. It feels like either the denoise or the tack sharp edits are not making into the exported files. I never had this problem prior to PR 2023. I am looking for a finished product with the edits baked in. I have tried to circumvent the problem by creating a layered image by duplicating the image in Layers and generating a .onphoto output. This has given some improvement but not always. In some cases I have edited the .onphoto file in an effort generate an export that looks like the original edited Raw image with haphazard success. It shouldn't be this difficult. Am I mistaken or was this never a problem before 2023?
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Have you reported this to tech support?
https://on1help.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018405111-How-to-submit-a-problem-to-ON1-Tech-Support-A-Step-by-step-Guide0 -
Not yet. I thought I would check here first. I'll send this on to support.
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I decide today to look at another photo taken with the XT-5 and, if anything it's even weirder. I'm beginning to wonder if there's nothing wrong with the RAF per se, but something about the version PR puts on the screen. In this case, the RAF is on the right and the TIF *exported from that RAF* is on the left. And the RAF is just weird - like it's made of mini-lego - square artefacts right around the sheep's head and along the fence post, visible at 100%, but I zoomed in to 200% to make it clearer. But you can immediately see the artefacts that are apparently in the raw file are not exported to the TIF file. The TIF file is a bit soft but much less noisy. NoNoise was applied to the RAF file in the edit.
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Ok, scratch that. The softening is a 'thing' but it's only the preview version of the RAF that has the artefacts. When I opened it back up for editing, the 'blocks' aren't there.
Still, never seen this before that I've noticed, so a little odd.
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