ON1 Raw Cache size
My ON1 Raw Cache size is currently at 250GB (in Preferences I had limited it to 3,000 MB) and includes .ldb files (maybe a Windows problem?). I tried to use the cache "empty" command but no luck.
As I am still using Lightroom for my database needs I don't need this aspect of ON1 and particularly the loss of disk space.
Is this typical?
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I just checked mine. I have it set to 5000mb max however In PerfectBrowseCache there are 30.3gb of files. Seems to be the WatchedContent folder that's the culprit. That's the only one that was created in March, the others are more recent. If you have catalogs turned on I'd expect a large folder somewhere, It could be that.
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Thanks for the response. I seem to be having strange things happening since I moved from 2017 to 2018 but it could be my system. I appear to have a 2MB approx file for every image in my pictures folder with matching .ldb files (apparently these are MS Access files - I wonder if ON1 uses this as part of its catalog system).
I went through the Preferences and didn't see anything I could change to improve things.
As I mentioned I don't need the DAM feature for the moment, maybe in the future if I drop LR.
Regards.
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You didn't say if you had any catalogs or not. If you don't need them, don't create any.
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No, I have not created any catalogs.
I'd be grateful if you went into your WatchedContents folder, picked a single file and looked at properties. Mine are all Microsoft Access Record-Locking Information .ldb files but total 250GB approx. When I use file explorer (Windows 10) to check the size of this folder it literally takes about ten hours to determine. I'm guessing this is the root of the problem.
I wouldn't mind but I did a recent re-installation and lost a lot of my ON1 10, 2017 and 2018 data.
Thanks for the help.
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No that's not right. My WatchedContent folder is all jpg files, 30 some gig of them. My WatchedContent.db folder has the .ldb files but there are only 32 of them with a few other lock files, total size 39mb. If you don't have catalogs, you shouldn't have 250gig of anything.
If you're going to be messing around with On1's inner workings, you should have sidecars turned on so that you have a backup of any work you've done. If you have a backup, On1 has a de-install utility if you want to go that far, and then you can re-install from scratch. If you're going to do that, be sure to sign out from the help menu first to avoid using an extra registration slot when you sign in again. I think you should be running this past tech support before doing anything drastic anyway.
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Last week I had the scratch folder defaulted which used my roaming folder on my system drive. I have catalogs and I was playing around with a couple of settings, one which was the apply lens correction. During all of this, ON1 decided to go on a binge and consumed almost all of my system drive. I mean like 240gb of space. I got a system drive space warning and I immediately reset, cleared, you name it all of the preferences and shutdown ON1 and restarted it. It let go of all of that space and gave it back. Thank god. At some point while it was rebuilding my catalogs it found a couple of old jpegs that were corrupted and it told me it was adding them to it's blacklist (or something) and ignoring them. That seemed to take care of it. But since then, I added an SSD drive and told ON1 to use it for the scratch space and the cache. Here are some screen shots. And just like Rick, the only idb files are in the WatchedContent.db directory. The only thing that is in WatchedContent are jpegs.
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It used 240 GIG for no reason !!! My god. The 2 of you are the first I've heard of something like this. Also never heard of a 'blacklist' before either. Interesting stuff.
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That was my thoughts. I was frantic for a bit. Thankfully I did not have to go and try and find where all excessive drive space was. I had one SATA drive connection left on my motherboard, so I stuck an SSD in and figured that if it ever did that again, at least it was isolated away from everything else.
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So did you figure out what was in it and send the info to On1? I wonder if there was anything in the logs when it did that.
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Thanks for the input guys. The only reason this became an issue for me was when I tried to use Explorer to check the size of my Pictures folder. It took hours and was apparent it was because I had placed my ON1 cache folder here.
My editing is done on a desktop with a 256 GB SSD and 1 TB HDD. A week or so ago I ran into a space problem on my SSD because of an update with PaintShoPro which I mentioned on dpreview. My first alert for a space problem - definitely got my attention.
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61523457
For me it seems the WatchedContent and WatchedContent.db folders are very similar regarding size, jpegs in the former and .ldb in the latter.
I have been a fan of ON1 for many years. Hopefully I can resolve this and move on. I will follow up with ON1 directly if required.
Thanks again for the insights.
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No, and No. I did look in the log and I saw several old jpegs that it had flagged as being corrupt. It also popped up a dialog box with the jpeg name when it ran into it during the rebuild. But I never figured out what file(s) had sucked up all of the disk space, and I did toggle the lens correction check box on and off. Nothing like that has happened since.
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I discovered in the early days of ON1 10 (support didn't seem to know anything about it) that ON1 keeps a corrupt file log. In my case, Windows 10, it's found in C:\Users\MAIN1\AppData\Roaming\ON1 and is called CorruptFiles.log. It contains a list of all files that ON1 suspects of being corrupt, whether or not they are. For example, whenever ON1 crashes it will assume the file being worked on is corrupt and add it to the list. To make things worse, Browse will not open any folder that contains a file in the list (the complete pathname is stored). Deleting the log file doesn't appear to do any harm, but it gives you back access to those files. Do it at your own risk though.
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Thanks Paul. Just checked and found 2 HDR files in the list for me to check out later.
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Thanks Paul. Nice to know where to look.
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