2019 Export issues
Still terrible on my MacBook I’m afraid. On export it took over 600% of my CPU, never finished the export (after running for over 3 minutes) and then crashed 😢 Which is actually worse than the 2018 version. Which was slow but usable. That’s with an MacBook i7 4 core and 16mb memory.
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Mine takes forever to export and sometimes freezes the program or shuts down the program when exporting on On1 2019. I’m using on 27 inch iMac with core i7 and 40gb Ram. Slow..... and rendering images also takes a bit.
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This is the WORSE version of On1 Software EVER (2019) It is wasting hours of my time waiting for it to export.
I've been a stalwart of On1 since the early days but this is just awful. I'm working on a PC with up to date windows and 32 Gig of RAM.
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David and Michael, agreed. It takes so so long to export. Does it take a while to render an image while editing? Mine has to render each one and it’s just slow. The other night I tried exporting and it kept crashing when I’d try exporting.at least 5 times in a row before it would actually export.
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Just wanted to add a "me too" post. 2018 was slow, and 2019 while you can continue working, is even slower. Like the OP, I have a Macbook Pro 2016 i7, 16GB RAM and takes forever to just export 10 images. I can't imagine having to exporta 200, it would take days!
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At the moment I just can’t afford the time to mess around with this. From Lightroom I can round trip a file into and out of Luminar and Nik in seconds. I can open files directly in Luminar and process and export quickly. On1 is unusable for me at the moment.
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The best way to get re-editable version is to export to psd as smart object, from Photoshop, Run the filter Effects 2019. Save your PSD, that way, you'll have the RAW data from LR, with its settings, and you have the Effects to further style or what not. AND, it's Photoshop, so you can have a thousand layers, multiple Smart object with different develop setting, what ever you want. I mean, if you're still using the Photographer's subscription from Adobe, might as well use it, right?;-)
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Thanks Jeff Lambert. Very interesting! So that works perfectly and quickly. I also tried a direct export from Lightroom and that also works quickly after applying a series of edits. So I wonder why we are all having so many issues working and exporting RAW files directly???
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I'm experiencing very high CPU usage at 300% to 800% when exporting to JPGs. ON1 Photo RAW 2019 is taking about 1.59GB of memory and 50% of the time when it exports the whole app will crash.
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This doesn't work as far as I can tell, when I create the smart object and open "filter" for ON1 ON1 has no move, crop or ability to add another layer, all greyed out. See below
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@Bill Posner, I think you’re confusing the worflows from when you are editing from within Photoshop vs directly in Photo Raw 2019. If you are editing a smart object in photoshop with the filter, you’re right, you won’t have any of the cropping or layer fonctionality because those you would do in PS anyway. If you are editing right from Photo Raw, then you’ll have the crop tool and be able to add layers. The workflow I was suggesting is if you are still using Photoshop and want to be able to get the effects from photo Raw, as a plugin to PS, like it’s been from the beginning of time;-) You would use PS’s Camera raw to edit the raw data, not On1’s engine. That means that photo raw will work on a developed version of the image, much like it was doing in version 2018 when you went into layers. If you work in On1 photo Raw 2019 only, then you get the new edit raw with layer capabilities.
This has never been an issue before, so maybe it won’t bother you. But if you need full raw editability you need to work ONLY in photo raw and it’s excruciatingly slow export time. I hope it’s clearer now:-)
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Hi Jeff, thanks for the reply.
My concern is a number of things, but for this discussion, I use ON1 from LR In 2018 I would bring an image into ON1 from LR. When done, or was called away from the keyboard, I would save the file, then, later on, I could relaunch the un-finished file or the file I wanted to maybe refine, directly from LR. This was great as sometime I'll see I just didn't get the layers the way wanted and could easily just open the PSD from LR into ON1 and re-edit. This was a major factor in using ON1. I do a lot of product shots for my customers and removing/adding backgrounds for the products was a breeze in ON1. Not so anymore. This is a big disappointment in the design and execution of this program.
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Ok, I get what you’re saying, until 2018, Photo raw was saving it’s file as PSD which worked with Lightroom, but now with their own file format for version 2019, it doesn’t work anymore.
Well, with the workflow I was mentionnening in my second post you can still use the psd format, keep the smart object in PS and apply effects on said smart object. You would have to make masking in PS and not in On1 thought. That’s the way I’ve been doing it for ever. I haven’t checked if you would be able to get the mask created from On1 into PS, or create it in On1 and apply it while keeping the transparency in PS but I don’t think that you can. Maybe someone else as a better way.
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Well, Jeff, I use LR as my foundation to all my post work. I've been using it for years, and at the time I started using because of the ease of keeping my images cataloged and easily search for images. So all the other post software I use are a plugin from LR, including PS. ON1 2018 was awesome in removing backgrounds and adding skies etc. For product work, the Quick Mask, which they also remove was really fast to remove green screen or one color backgrounds.
For me, ON1 will never replace LR. ON1 continued bad Q/A has left me someone shy of using it as my main platform. Sure even Adobe had a couple of bad releases, the last one with LR, they heard from users and quickly pulled back some of the changes. The decisions they made on this release should be rethought as these make the plugin side of the program unusable.
I just tried opening a file in ON1 standalone then saving a partial edit. So to make this work, I have to have a folder just for ON1 partial edits if I ever want to go back edit anything. As their file format is not compatible with anything else. It's like going back to the 90s or something, proprietary file formats, really? jeez
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Just wanted to comment on the proprietary file format, PSD is from Adobe by the way, it was just "hacked" to work with On1 and other software vendor like affinity. But everybody has it's own file format, affinity, Skylum luminar and ON1. As soon as you want to get something that is a bit more involved you have to put your own secret sauce and that means your own file format. I'm not saying I enjoys this, but that's just the way it is, everybody think they have THE answer to the problem and need to convince you that THEY have the solution to all your problems. Adobe has it's own way, On1 has their's, Serif Affinity, and Skylum all have different take on how to solve our photo problem, you have to pick one that suits most of your problems and deal with the little stuff.
That's why I keep PS, for me, it is still king for any editing I need, but, don't don't deal in volume and I'm a pro retoucher so if I was doing wedding and having to deal with thousands of images to process in a day, that would be another workflow.
I know you liked the quick selection tool in On1, but if you're "stuck" without it, PS has incredible ways to select things. If you need luminosity masking, check Lumenzia, which facilitate their creation in PS. Hope that helps.
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Hi Jeff, appreciate the reply and information. Yes, agree with your evaluation of PS king. I know a number of volume editors that loved the quick mask and features of 2018. I started using this software when it was version 8 or so. I've stuck with them as they grew and made changes, many releases being quite buggy and "unfinished". But I loved some of their unique modules. I come to this discussion after 40 years in the software industry and know how the "sauce is made" I get very frustrated at releases that seem to override what customers are looking for, and what seems to be a problem with their QA/QC processes. Even though most companies as you say have their own file formats or "secret sauce" I get that, but if you promote yourself as a plugin, then it should work seamlessly between hosts. Now if they want to be the LR replacement and not be a "plugin" fine, announce that, but for me, they will never be a replacement Adobe and RAW editing
Just this morning I tried using the program as a standalone, opened a file, added layer, saved and then when I brought back up in ON1 and re-edit it locked up and kept giving "Non-Responsive" errors. I've sent all this to support. still waiting for a reply. I do use PS for many editing and layer work, but ON1 was a good starting point and worked quickly. Anyway, appreciate the time you took to reply.
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I agree. We tried to export 1600 photos. Has taken 3 full days(literally) and 4 computer/program shut downs to get there. And these were resized files sizes. Way smaller than we are used too. Good program but definitely has flaws and exporting is one of them.
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