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  • Kevin Pinkerton

    I found information on page 129 of the 2019 user manual which may answer your question. I have not tried it.

    " The Crop tool is used to crop and resize the
    entire image. Unlike the non-destructive Crop
    tool in the Edit module, Resize’s Crop tool
    removes any pixels outside a crop box and
    changes the canvas size at the same time.
     "

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  • Rick Sammartino Community moderator

    I agree, canvas size is not there and I've needed it a few times. I've used crop to reduce the canvas but you can't crop something bigger.

    Until it gets added back in, if it does, the key would be to think ahead. Create a blank image the size of the canvas you need and load it first just to reserve that space. Later on you should be able to turn it off or just delete that layer.

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  • Kevin Pinkerton

    I submitted a tech support request about the missing resize canvas function. If I get an answer, I will share it here.

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  • Rick Sammartino Community moderator

    Thanks Kevin. Wish you had added color layers to that Q too.

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  • Kevin Pinkerton

    Rick, I sort of hinted about color, but did not ask about color layers.

    "What is the process to resize the canvas to be larger than the image so we can color the canvas (to act like a border)?"

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  • Kevin Pinkerton

    I was received a message back on my question about how to resize the canvas. Since I sent that, I heard that it was already mentioned in a videocon that it was removed...

    "the "adjust canvas size" function is no longer included in the Photo Raw 2019. This feature was eliminated when we re-designed the Layers module to add non-destructive layered editing capabilities. However, I will pass along your feedback to our Senior Product Developer Dan Harlacher. We may be adding this feature to the Photo Raw 2019 in future free updates, but unfortunately we do not have a time frame on when this feature will be added at this time. "

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  • David Barrows

    I just asked them about this also.  I just upgraded the software and was disappointed to see that feature had been removed.  It's kind of crucial for various types of tasks.  One of my main uses of the program is to start with a blank canvas of a particular size.

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  • Kevin Pinkerton

    I have a hard time justifying why they would remove this canvas resize function. My best guess it because it was too much trouble to integrate into whatever underlying re-coding they did on the upgrade from 2018 to 2019....

    A poor excuse for sure, but why remove something otherwise? Unless you have an alternative way to do it. And they do not.

    I can imagine the team discussing things at a meeting and a programmer saying "Well I can get that to work, but it is going to be kludgy and to do it right, I would need 6 weeks and we would have to re-address the way we do xyz"... "OK, then just remove it. I am sure no one uses it." 

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  • Rick Sammartino Community moderator

    I have imagined the exact same thing. The same as removing color fill layers which are actually easy to replicate, but it wouldn't have hurt anything to just leave the button in. And then there is the portrait module which I guess we didn't need, but wait, now we do so let's put it back.

    These are the most obvious problems, but there are smaller corners cut too, like not being able to filter for no stars. On import, renaming Raw+jpg generates different names for each instead of matching names so they can be stacked. Then there is the most obvious problem, why can't we suspend catalogs when we need the CPU for other things. Why don't I have a SAVE button so I don't have to go back to browse when I'm in the middle of a complex edit so I don't risk losing it in a crash? Why is there no database import/export for backups?.

    I have more, maybe I should maintain a list.

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  • Rick Sammartino Community moderator

    David, if you want to start with a specific canvas size, it's an easy work around. Just create a file with the x/y pixels you need. You can even make it transparent. Import it into On1 as a background. Think of it as a preset, just start your layers with that preset to define the canvas and add your other layers on top of it.

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  • David Barrows

    @Rick, thanks for that tip, very helpful.  Could you please let me know if you have a preferred app or method for creating an image file with specified dimensions?  (I'm on Mac OSX v 10.13.6).  thanks.  PS would also be useful to know how you make it transparent.  thx

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  • Rick Sammartino Community moderator

    David

    • First you'll need to determine what size canvas you need. You can make a number of them. I just tried this myself to make sure it works and found a couple of catches, but it will still do the trick. My RAWs are typically around 4000x3000, so I picked a size 2x edges. I want the final to be 8000x6000 pixels.
    • Open any photo in Photo raw. If you want the template transparent, click the Layer mask and select invert or If you want it a specific colour, select the Local adjustments, open it's mask and invert it. select Paint with color and choose one from the Selector. It doesn't really need to be transparent or colored since once it's loaded, you can just turn it off and still  reserve the canvas space.
    • Open Export and enable Photo Size. Enter the sizes you needed. I entered 8000 and 6000 pixels.
    • In File Type, for Transparent choose PNG, TIFF or Photoshop (PSD) they will all create an 8000x6000 file that's about 350mb in size. If instead you choose jpg it won't be transparent, but will only be about 700kb.
    • In the Rename section, assign a name like "canvas 8000x6000" and click Export.
    • Once you have the template, reset whatever photo you used to make it. Don't forget to change your exports settings back to where they were.
    • Up above I suggested importing as a background, but that won't work because the template needs to be the first layer and you can't add a background until you already have a layer loaded. Also, when you import, On1 changes all of the TIFF,PNG and PSD to jpg anyway. So instead create a folder to keep them in. If you're using catalogs you can make them accessible that way or just copy and paste them when needed. I find it's best to add the template to the folder that you're working in just so everything is in the same place and save having find things in the browser. You only need the template until On1 creates the .onPhoto file then you delete if it's a copy.
    • To use it, just open the template in On1 first to set the canvas size then add any photos on top of it. Turning off the template Layer will make it transparent.

    I've tried to check this for mistakes and as far as I can tell it will work just fine if you take the time to create yourself some templates.

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  • David Barrows

    @Rick, wow, thank you so much for that detailed set of instructions.  I will try it soon.  Much gratitude.

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  • james hathaway

    Top tip! Much appreciated. I need a canvas size of 1600x1200 for camera club entrys  so any picture size is made up with a black edge via the background layer.

    Since going to 2019 I had been editing in 2019  then opening the image in 2018 to create the layers for the surround.

    Id hopped 2019.2 would of reinstated the simple option. instead id managed to create the backdrop and import it but as i was adding it as a second layer couldnt get it to be bigger than the image. Now got a solution,  thanks 

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  • Rick Sammartino Community moderator

    Since I posted those instructions, I've realized that you can also select a group of photos along with the canvas template all at one time. Just make sure the template is super selected (extra border) before going to layers. The super selected file is the one that determines the canvas size.

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