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  • Rick Sammartino Community moderator

    No, something is wrong there. When I open a border it automatically adjusts itself to the edges of my photo. If fact there is no way to make it NOT align to the edges.

    At this point, I'd want to know what adjustments you've made with the move or crop tools which will both affect the borders. At the very least, setting a crop should tell the borders where to align.

    My first test would be to simply open an untouched photo, crop it and add a border. If that doesn't work, you need to talk to tech support.

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  • Matthew Softley

    Yesterday I was trying a round trip from Lightroom with a cropped PSD to 3x2, that's where I initially encountered the problem.

    Today I tried starting in On1 2019 and used a native 3x2 picture. Did some light B&W adjustments and applied a border, same aspect ratio problem.

    In the first picture you can see that the border is applied over the picture, not around it (I reduced the borders opacity to see the picture). In the second picture I tried the fit image slider to pull back the picture so it was all in the border.  The top and bottom are aligned with the keyline, the left and right are not; is there a way make the border fit? What am I missing?



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  • Rick Sammartino Community moderator

    Ok, so now that I see what you mean and I can see that there is a bug. In fact 2 bugs. When I try it, either the photo or the border is not being resized properly to let the photo fit inside of the border, but in addition, if you crop the photo the crop is not being applied and you can reduce the photo with the cropped out area still there. Also, I'm seeing that the right side of the border is narrower than the left, so 3 bugs.

    You can document this and send it in to tech support, since I have it up on my screen I'll do the same.

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  • Matthew Softley

    OK, cheers.

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  • Betty Garfoot

    Hi

    Did you get anywhere with this as I have a similar problem? I want the border to fit the photo & not have to lose top & bottom to get it to 'fill' the border. Thanks

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  • David Kick

    Betty Here is something I just quickly tried but seems to work.

    Add a border as a layer - It will cover part of your image as noted in the posts above.

    Make sure you have the border layer selected then Top Menu select - File - Canvas Size  -Set the canvas size larger than the original photo and select apply. You should see a blank canvas area around the edges .

    With the Border layer select Transform on the Left panel then select Fill canvas the border should then pop out to the edges of the canvas exposing all edges of the original photo. If you made the canvas size too big you will see some blank canvas between the border and the photo. If you do, with transform still selected grab the edges of the border and pull them in to cover the original photo as desired. Then just use the crop tool to crop out the blank canvas around the edges. 

     

    Alternatively with Transform selected don't use Fill Canvas and just grab the handles to pull the border out to where you want it and the crop off any blank canvas.

     

    Hope this makes sense and helps.

     

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  • Rick Sammartino Community moderator

    No, I'm not seeing any improvement. You still need to overlap a bit on the top and bottom.

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  • David Kick

    Rick -- have you tried the method I described? Works well with solid edge boarders. It still works OK with some of the more"artsy" boarders but in those cases you still need to cover a bit of the photo so the blank canvas does not show through.

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  • David Kick

    Rick, as a side note - if people have standard size photos the use I would imagine they could use the above method to create and save several borders to use with their photos for example the OP where he indicated 2x3 ratio.

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  • Betty Garfoot

    Dave - I'll give this  a try. it makes sense in theory.

    My current project is working with scanned images from old b&w negatives. I want to put a border round in which I use text to give information about the image. So I need the plain thick border. I don't see why it can't fit the image instead of the image fitting the border though! Thats too logical I suppose. BUT I am a novice so it might be me!

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  • Betty Garfoot

    David

    Yes it worked!

    Thanks. 

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  • Rick Sammartino Community moderator

    David, sorry, I guess I didn't refresh the page and didn't see your post.

    Yes, using Layers is a valid workaround. If you just want a white border, you could also just create your own border with a white colour fill layer, or use that to create your own set of borders.

    The annoying part of all of this, of course, is simply that the On1 borders are not the all the same width.

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  • David Kick

    Betty, Glad it worked for you.

     

    Rick, I agree. 

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