Saving an edited photo
I have just started using on1 2019. I like it very much except that I can not find a way to "save as" like in the previous version. I am using the export button, but I don't care for it. Is there any way to use "save as" instead? Thanks!
Sandra, when you're editing your photo, all of that is virtual. It's just instructions that you want to be applied to your photo. Until you export, there is nothing to save. Export is what combines your editing with the photo. If you prefer, there is a Quick Export on the file menu, but you're going to need some kind of Export to get your photos out of On1.
There is even an On1 FAQ about it...
The advantage of using the export button is the choice of export now or export in background. Make this choice after choosing settings, click and hold over the word export and choose "Export in Background" this enables you to work on other images while the export proceeds.0
Rick, in the article you provided a link for there's another link for an article on sidecar files. I'm curios about the pros and cons of sidecar files. Does generating sidecar files offer any advantages over just letting the program keep the "virtual instructions?"0
William, The only disadvantage is that there are going to be hundreds of them infesting your Photo folders. This is only a problem if you use a file explorer to go through your photos. If you use On1, you won't see the sidecars and shouldn't be a problem.
The advantage of sidecars is first, they re a backup of all your work. If you regularly back up your PC, this is where your security is because backing up the database won't help. If your computer crashes, you won't be able to restore the database, but you can rebuild it from the sidecars. The other advantage it that you can move your edits between PC's. If you often work in home and office or laptop and desktop, copying your photo and it's sidecar will allow you to move your work back and forth or keep it in the cloud somewhere.1
Thanks for the quick and full answer, Rick. I often take my portable HD with photos on it between computers at my home and studio and do edits at both places so it makes sense, it seems, to use side cars to insure that all my edits are protected, especially in case a machine crashes.0
Sidecars are a nice advantage for carrying metadata along with your files along with the changes such as ratings etc. They are a moderately good standard, but frustrating sometimes if you use several software packages in the same workflow as not everything is in the same place or read properly and the incompatibilities can sometimes be frustrating.
That said, I refuse to use sidecars. I do enough manual browsing and handling of my files where the sidecars are like a tidal wave of files that I have to parse through. In fact I no longer use any software which does not allow sidecars to not be generated. (so as a person who is about to test out On1 - I need to check first if I can turn sidecars off - can I? ) I mostly use Photomechanic with DXO and Capture One. Photomechanic is great in that it can write changes directly back to the Raw File. That, if done badly, is a poor idea, in some peoples minds, but I favor it personally.
So in my view, sidecars are a very nice thing to have, but we all have a basic temperament and I go a bit crazy seeing files created and littered inside my folders. So choice and experimentation is a great thing. :).
I also work off of referenced files where the database is separate from the Raw files, so maybe that influences my choices. If one works with one program, especially inside of a catalogue structure, sidecars are a no-brainer, probably.0
ON1 does store all of the editing changes (and I assume metadata) in an internal database on the local machine. However it can get corrupted and if it does then all of your edits will be gone and the images will be virgin again.
You do have the option to export edited images as JPEG, Photoshop, Photoshop large document, TIFF and PNG at full size and without compression.
ON1 PR defaults to sidecar files turned off, but I got bit when the internal Database got corrupted (The app stalled and I had to force it to exit), and that was all I needed to turn side cars on. If you decide to turn on sidecars later, it is very easy to have the internal database generate sidecars for all of the images you have edited in the past without sidecars.
If you need to move all of your catalogs or just directories from your current machine to another machine (with a new install of ON1 on the new machine), you will need sidecars moved over, as the internal database currently cannot be exported or moved.1
I think the great thing about sidecar files is I can edit photos on a networked drive from either my laptop or my desktop pc. If you do not have sidecar files turned on you cannot do this.0
I have a similar question. After editing a photo, if I click on "Browse" I end up undoing all the edits I have just completed. Should this be happening? Is there a setting that is allowing this to happen? Even when I go back into "Edit" I lose everything I've done.
As a follow up, when I go to export the photo from the Edit screen, non of the updated edits end up in the exported picture. I must be doing something wrong...0
Morgan, you shouldn't be losing any of your edits, especially by going back to browse. Going back to browse forces a save and all of your edits should be there. If they aren't, you should submit a support request.
The one exception is if you're using layers, in that case On1 creates an .onphoto file to keep everything in and if you look at your original photo back in browse, you won't see your edits there, they'll be in the onphoto file instead.
As for edits missing after export, On1 is aware of a bug that causes this. The temp fix is to go to browse before exporting. This should be fixed in the next update.0
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