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Why not iCloud (next to Dropbox, Google drive and Onedrive)

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    Kahlie Support manager

    Due to restrictions from Apple, unfortunately, we are unable to provide direct support for iCloud.

  • Martin de Jong

    I'm questing tha as well. I only use iCloud.

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  • Lieven Lema

    Aha there's two of us. :-)

     

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  • David Redfearn

    Three!  I use iCloud exclusively.

    David

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  • Martin de Jong

    Hi Kahlie,

    Thanks for your reply. I expected something like that, but can you elaborate this?

    Regards,

    Martin

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  • Jeff Lambert

    I'm not sure I would use iCloud for this guys, by default it will optimize your mac and can delete anything locally if it's not been touch for a while, keeping only the cloud version. I use iCloud Photos, but would not store my raw files on a folder on iCloud. Just my two cents:-) YMMV.

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  • David Redfearn

    I don't think Apple would open up iCloud for this, so it's not likely to happen.  But, there are clear advantages:  on thing iCloud does is optimize storage across all the devices that access the data - that would include Macs, iPhones and iPads.  If the device doesn't have enough storage space, the files will remain on iCloud and will only be downloaded on demand.  Thus, selected images would be available even on an iPhone.  There are very capable image editors available for iOS (e.g., RawPower) so you could edit RAW images on your iOS device.  I think that would be a very nice feature.  The images themselves would be safe in the Cloud - you just have to keep in mind that when you delete them on one device, they are going to disappear!

    David

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  • Jeff Lambert

    David, until ON1 has Photo RAW for iOS, having your images from ON1 in iCloud will not make you able to edit them, sadly:-( You can open up the RAWs but you'll have to start from scratch, and if you edit in another software on iOS, you'll have to export it to a format On1 can read to further edit it. It's still one thing Adobe has that On1 doesn't, editing where ever you are. 

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  • David Redfearn

    Of course - I know On1 doesn't run on iOS - so you would have to use a different program (I suggested RawPower, which is very capable) and of course you could export to JPEG and import that if you wanted to.  I don't know about you, but I own several different image editors and I use each program for functions where it is superior - so I am not concerned about moving edited images between programs.  I updated On1 specifically for the Focus Stacking function (which still needs development).  I think DxO Photo Lab 2 has the best noise reduction, and Capture One Pro the best Raw Conversion.

    (I am an odd case with regards to Image Editing software programs - I shoot with a Sony A7RM3 most of the time, and I shoot Raw+JPEG.  If I have good light and expose correctly, the JPEG straight out of the camera is all I need.  I only go to RAW when light was bad and/or I messed up.  I have been doing RAW editing for some very old images shot with Canon Digital Rebels (T2i) - which really need help.  Cameras have come a long way in the past 10 years!  Sony makes really good JPEGs these days.)

    David

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  • David Redfearn

    I feel a bit foolish now, but a quick check shows that just because iCloud is not listed in "Services" doesn't mean you can't use it.  I can catalog a folder in my iCloud library, edit images and save the settings back to the iCloud folder.  Maybe there is something more you get as a "Service" but this is all I need to do.  You just need to make sure that the folder you want to use has been downloaded to your Mac.  I don't know why On1 says that Apple prevents them from supporting iCloud.

    The iCloud files can appear on Macs, iPhones and iPads; even if On1 doesn't support those platforms, you can use (for example) an iPad Pro to review your shots and rate them (keepers vs. rejects).  Then, you can do further edits for the keepers in On1 on the Mac.  I think many photographers are using their iPads to do this kind of review; the iPad can also be used to backup your images from the camera - the new iPad Pros support much faster import speed.

    David

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