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New 2019.2 AI Mask Tool of Any Value?

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  • Peter Pfeiffer

    Results using AI can be easily refined with the refine brush. Have a look ...

     
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  • Andre Moreau

    Gerald,

    I've tried it using a simple image taken near Moab, UT: bottom is a sandune, top is the sky and straddling both is a side-by-side vehicule. PR 2019.2 got the sky right, got the sand right up to the sky but also included the bottom half of the side-by-side vehicule. So I had to go in and use the refine brush. AI?

     

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  • Rick Sammartino Community moderator

    Gerald, before you hit the Done button, you can readjust the AI mask and Apply it as many times as you need to get it as accurate as possible. Once you click Done, that when it sends you to the refine tools.

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  • Gerald Pasternack

    OK.  Just downloaded 2019.2 to give it a try.  New masking seems OK -- but nothing revolutionary.  Not sure what all of this "AI hoopla" is about.  Overactive marketing, I guess.

    Similar to Topaz ReMask, but not as good. Fails to mask fine hair and tree limbs, with out lots of extra work..  As implied, best use is to create a quick mask that will probably need refinement using other PR masking tools. 

    Now onward, to check if the other PR features work as well (or even better) than in 2019.1

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  • Shari Whittaker

    I have just tried the A1.  I have not used on1 for years and just got 2019 Raw.  I finally found the extras to add a sky but now when I try to pull that layer down under my eagle layer it will not work.  It keeps bouncing back.  Am I missing something?  Where should I go to just see replacing the sky please?  When I google I get so many different versions from other years I do not know which is the latest video to follow.  Finding this new version confusing.

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  • Andre Moreau

    Shari, look for Foundations Course Part 3: Layers. Its free and available here:

    https://www.on1.com/store/on1-photo-raw-2019-foundations-course/

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  • Shari Whittaker

    Thank you.  I hope I can figure why I can't pull my layer down.  Been all afternoon on this

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  • Gerald Pasternack

    Shari:

    Tell me more.

    Can't you simply highlight the top layer and drag it down until an indicator shows that it is at the bottom of the layer stack ---or vice-versa ?

    Then let go of the mouse button.

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  • Shari Whittaker

    That is what I have always done before but this is not working

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  • Rick Sammartino Community moderator

    Gerald sent you instructions, but in a new thread...

    https://on1help.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360040195291

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  • Antoine Hawara

    I tried the AI mask tool and it is working fine even with an image with a complex background, see attached. The only issue it is slow going from one layer to the next, but I suppose I can live with it for now.

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  • Gerry Whitmarsh

    Not so sure what the AI is as it seems to be based on the old Perfect Mask from way back in the day. That also used an eye dropper to build drop and save colours. It seems to work OK though, except for around slightly out of focus tree branches, or where the background colours also appear in the foreground subject, but can’t fault ON1, that will always give a problem. Maybe some kind of range slider though.

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  • Gerald Pasternack

    Now that I've used AI Mask a few times I see that it can be of value.  Compared to PR2019.1, no better quality mask, but easier to get there.  Still think Topax ReMask is better. 

    No mater the tool, detailed quality masking for complex subjects (tree branches, wispy hair) is time consuming and generally a pain.

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