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HDR and Pano

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    Hudson Henry has a great video on doing panoramas and one episode covers HDR panos. His workflow is to create the HDR images first, then merge them into the panorama. I've used that technique and it works well.

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  • Lenny Hartley

    thanks will look for it.

     

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  • Michael Miller

    Regarding just the HDR part, I just found out the hard way that when you merge into an HDR (In Browse mode) and Save it from the HDR screen, you are not done. You are now in Edit mode and don't have a useable image file yet. You have a .onphoto file with which you need to Edit or Click on Done at the bottom right side of the screen. Then, you will be asked to Save again, this time getting an image file. I select .TIF, so I can keep editing a 'Raw' file. 

    In fact, if you don't click Done, you have no Grid or Filmstrip view and you can't even go Next or Previous with your arrow keys.

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    See my comments about what happens when HDRs are created on your other thread about creating versions.

    You do have a useable image file, it is the .onphoto file that gets created when the HDR images are merged. The problem is that if you go directly into Edit mode from the Create HDR window you are in the new Single Image Edit Mode which forces you to save the edits in an exported image file.

    If you return directly to the Browser from the Create HDR window you'll see the .onphoto file which is ON1's proprietary RAW format. It should be selected when the Create HDR window closes so you can enter the editor and make your edits which will the be saved as non-destructive like every other RAW file.

    Because you are in Single Image Edit Mode you don't have access to the Filmstrip and the arrow keys don't work as it doesn't allow switching to a new image. You have to end the edit session explicitly, saving the work in a new file, before you can work on a new image. For this reason when I create my HDRs I tell the program to return to the Browser rather than entering the editor. Personally I consider it a bug and I've reported it as such.

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  • Michael Miller

    Another observation, I just did a focus stacking, Browse mode, merge and Save. It created the .onphoto file, but did not remove the Filmstrip view like HDR did. I still have to click on Done to make a .TIF file. Also, for both HDR and Stacking it automatically switch to Edit after the merge Save.

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    There is an Open in pop-up menu in the HDR & Stacking windows to tell the program which module to open when the merge has finished.

    Stacking allows you to keep the individual images in their own Layers so that option is available for stacks but not HDRs.

     

    I'm not saying the program should behave this way. I think going into Single Image Edit Mode is a bug. Personally I have no use for that but I can see why it was added for other users' needs. I have my Preferences set to not use that mode. Editing after creating HDR, Stacks, or whatever should respect that. However, it's an easy workaround to just Return to Browse and hit the E key to get right back into editing where the Single Image Edit Mode's limitations no longer apply.

    On the occasions where I forget to set the Open in and go right into editing I'll create a temporary Preset to store the edits. I can then Cancel the Save dialog (I don't want the tiff yet), Cancel the edit session to prevent the save dialog from coming up again, and I'm back in the Browser with the .onphoto file selected. Press D then apply the preset and I'm right back in business with all my edits applied non-destructively.

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  • Michael Miller

    Brian: Open in pop-up menu in the HDR & Stacking windows to tell the program which module to open...

    MIne is set for Edit and that's ok. But it kicks me into Single Edit Mode, which I have to read up on.

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    That only applies when you double-click an image either in the ON1 Browser or Windows Explorer/Finder and when you go directly into edit mode from the Create HDR window. It always asks to Save an image when you return to the Browser. The edits do not get saved in the .on1 sidecar for the HDR onphoto.

    If you go into the Editor with the Edit button on the right panel or by pressing on of the hotkeys you are not in Single Image Edit Mode.

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  • Michael Miller

    Watched the .1 video. Helpful.

    Now, I know why my filter search looks different.

    One thing I couldn't do last night was search for more than one keyword.

    In the advanced text field I entered "cops annual, wildlife" and it only brought up cops annual.

    Couldn't find place to add more criterion. Will read up on that.

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    To add additional search parameters expand the Advanced section at the bottom of the pane then click the Add button.

    Page 33 in the User Guide discusses the Advanced Search pane's options.

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  • Michael Miller

    I used that but didn't realize there was a data entry field next to it. I only tried the drop down.

    ON1 needs to fix the light beige gray titles on black background and if there is a data field, show it in white and preferably focus the cursor in the field.

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  • Michael Miller

    Tried it again with Advanced, Add search.

    Add 1: cops annual, finds it.

    Add 2: wildlife, finds nothing

    Individually, they work.

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    Do you have pictures tagged with both wildlife and cops? Both keywords will have to be on an image to be found when searching for both keywords. The Add button is an implicit AND function. The only way to do an OR function is with 2 searches and dragging the results of each search to an Album.

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  • Michael Miller

    I know how to search. Had no problems with Lightroom. Was a database programmer during part of my career.

    They had cops annual and the other Add had wildlife.

    I wanted them both. Only worked finding the first part.

    Also, I was using find all.

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  • Rick Sammartino Community moderator

    Isn't 'Match any' the same as an OR ?

    and just to make sure it wasn't missed, you do have 'Search cataloged Folders' selected right?

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    @Rick: Yes, Match Any is an OR. My bad.

    @Michael: Can you post a screenshot your your Advanced Search panel settings for us to take a look at?

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