Advice sought on ways to process CR3 images
Obviously ON1 is a little embarrassed about CR3 support as to even mention the word on the Facebook in a post it gets removed and I suspect that if it is in the header here it is treated as spam. Also I can't find other threads that mentioned it so they must have been deleted.
Insofar as I am concerned, I guess I am selfish, but I am really suffering because I had a event last Friday where I have to go through and edit approximately 700 images. Not easy when your RAW converter of choice doesn't help.
As far as I can see there are to other ways to get around this deficiency and that is either to do the following:
1. Convert to DNG using the Adobe DNG Converter (24MB per image), or
2. Convert to TIF using Canon DPP. (140MB+ per image)
The most convenient way is to convert to DNG using the Adobe DNG converter as it takes a fraction of the time to convert to TIF using DPP. But there are issues with the way in which ON1 Photo RAW opens a DNG converted using the Adobe DNG Converter and that is that it applies the lens corrections, which are already applied in the conversion by the Adobe DNG Converter. What this means is that if you apply a EF-M or EF-S lens correction to a DNG it looks like a great big vignette.
Now I have asked for the support area to correct this issue with converting DNGs but their only advice is to turn off Lens Corrections in the preferences but that has the effect of then going through and regenerating previews for each and every RAW image that is catalogued. Obviously not a viable alternative and as support have not even replied to open issues I am looking for ideas other than switching RAW converters.
I have been a user since v6 but have never felt so helpless as a user of ON Photo RAW, the only concession or protest I have made is that I haven't renewed my Plus Membership and I really don't see any point.
So, if anyone has any ideas on alternatives please post here.
Sorry, don't have any good suggestions. If turning off lens correction actually does cause On1 to regenerate for the whole catalogue, then let it. Just let On1 run overnight if needed to do that.
I suspect it doesn't work that way though and it only regenerates the images that you open. If that's the case, you might be able to force On1 to regenerate your working folders now so that you don't have to do it later when you're trying to work. I would try turning off the correction and scan through a folder to see if you can do that.0
Rick, Just FYI if you do change the global setting to turn off lens correction the On1 catalog is rebuilt. I know because I did it and use cataloging ;-)0
If you use the Import item from the Browse Menu you can set an preset. Can this be just to turn off Lens Corrections? I don't use the Import Function myself as I use the OS to copy files onto my hard drives0
Don, I know you posted a reply here, but it's not showing up. If you can still see it and it says 'pending approval' then there is something in it that the system has flagged. You can try editing the post but it's hard to know exactly what was flagged.
On the other hand, if you or someone else deleted it, then I think I'd want to know why.0
When the reply was posted at about 9PM PDT, I live in Asia, until about 7AM PDT it wasn't flagged. All I can surmise is that the post was flagged and then deleted by an Admin. It is very difficult to get support now as I even asked for an update on this issue from Support on April 10 (184185 raised Mar 18) where I asked "Hi Stevie, As the CR3 issue is not in the wings, has there been any progress with the DNG issues?" and that still has not been answered.
Nathan also created a request on Apr 4 (185395) from a post in "Canon CR3 expected support release?" on the same DNG issue but I can no longer find that post in the support forums.
I'll post my reply again and see it that is deleted again. Note that this isn't the first time as you are aware of a thread that was deleted and ages ago a post in this thread, https://on1help.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360042927732-Slow-performance-on-a-new-high-end-Win10-desktop-build , was also deleted. I might add you said that posts are never deleted in that thread. The particular post that I added only said that I don't seem to have any issues with performance and added my system specs. ?? didn't make sense that it was deleted.
Note I edited it but it is still flagged as you can see above - so if it gets deleted I will post it again.0
Thanks for the suggestions but there are the following issues with import/lens corrections:
1. Import is not really useable as it offers nothing over copying to the folder and adding it to the database except for naming, backup and applying a preset. Presets though, cannot be used to turn off lens corrections.
2. Lens corrections cannot be turned off via a preset or synch.
3. If lens corrections are turned off there is no way to manually adjust the lens for distortion, color fringing or fall-off unless you apply the lens profile for a FF lens. And that really doesn't work properly.
What also worries me is there is an unwillingness to recognize that there is a problem in the way the DNGs from the DNG Generator are handled insofar as other applications do not apply lens corrections to the DNG Generator generated DNGs. In some other products they do display the lens details but don't apply the corrections again.
This is something we have struggled with for over a year now and there is still no solution in sight. Of course we can work using DNGs as a workaround for no CR3 support but we need the processing of these types of DNGs to be correct.
I also understand there is a general embarrassment about lack of CR3 support but there are now 5 cameras producing CR3 images and another 3 just recently announced so it is a reasonable expectation that we are able to process DNGs from CR3 images in our RAW processor of choice.
And the answer is not to try to silence us and not to tell us to use another application to edit CR3s in the meantime. Even if you post a image from a newer camera on their FB Group and add a comment saying "at least we can still edit JPEGs while we are waiting for CR3 support" the post is automatically deleted and you are no longer allowed on the community.
I personally have used ON1 products since v7 (actually PPS v6, but that doesn't appear on our account) for over 6 years so I don't want a refund because I have a long investment in the product and just want a product that processes images correctly. For those that don't know here is a screenshot of what ON1 Photo RAW does to the DNGs created from CR3 images by the DNG Creator which is a supported image file.0
I received an email notification of your post in reply to my suggestion of using a preset. I didn't know that we are unable to make a preset for the lens correction etc. as I don't need to use it, however at the time I was too busy on other things to reply, when I returned to the forum to reply your post had disappeared.
I'm pleased to see that you have been able to post it again together with the screen shot.0
Thanks Barry, I do appreciate the time you have taken to help.0
The lack of CR3 support is quite embarrassing, particularly since the CR3 format has been public for a year and your main competitor has support for it. I hate the Adobe subscription plan, but I may be forced back there now. I thought I had found a decent alternative in ON1, but so far all I have is lack of import of my CR3 files and an extremely sluggish UI. Don't get me started on the Export speed...0
Edvard, could you post a link to the public CR3 format please?0
I see what you did there... :-)
What I mean is that files encoded with the CR3 format have been available.-1
I had high hopes for on1 but i have canon RF lenses. So I can't use this anymore. I have been using DXO and it does a great job. come on on1 get with the program !0
Alan, CR3 is supported now and you haven't actually said what the problem is, so I guess there is nothing for us to comment on.0
There is no support for my Canon RF 35 1.8 and RF 24-105 L or am i wrong ?0
There is no lens correction profiles for my RF lenses either, the same as Alans by the way.
Seems to me the lens correction database is based on voluntary 3rd party work. Is this correct?0
ON1 gets its lens correction data from the LensFun database and the Canon RF lenses are not in it yet. You can submit calibration information for your lens to have it added to the database and ON1 will eventually pick it up. https://lensfun.github.io/calibration/0
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