creating versions
Hello ... I like the option to create versions from an original image - could someone tell me why a version shows as 0mb? I don't know what to do with it - I cannot save as - I have exported back into the folder creating a TIFF file out of it. curious as to why it shows 0mb and how others handle the workflow. thanks
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Regina, versions are virtual, not physical files. When you create a version, On1 simply allows you to add another set of edits to the same photo. You use it the same as your original, just make your edits and export them. You can make as many versions as you want, but if you delete the original photo all of the versions get deleted with it.
If you wanted an actual copy of a photo (rather than a version) use the Duplicate command instead. You'll end up with 2 separate files that way.
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thanks for the prompt reply Rick ... much appreciated. ok I think I get it. will try a few and get used to it.
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2020 05 03, 2020 14.1.1.1483
I have the same problem. in Edit mode, I created a new version. But, when I click the right or left arrow, it doesn't move. When I click on Browse, it wants me to save a .PSD. Halp!
I also don't see my icons for grid view or filmstrip view. There is just a Detail icon in Browse and Edit.
The Menu/View shows the Filmstrip view grayed out.
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Michael, you're going to have to post some more accurate info or a screenshot, because...
- You can't create a version in Edit, you can only do that in Browse
- Left/Right arrow where? Filmstrip view? Browse?
- If On1 wants to make a PSD, you're not in Edit. Which module are you using?
- Are you in standalone mode or Plugin Mode?
- Menu|View in what module?
Also, that's how the icons are for the older presets. The newer ones have images.
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Michael, can you post a screen shot of the Browser in grid view please?
How did you get into Edit mode? There are 2 ways to get there and returning to the Browser does different things depending upon how you entered.
- You can use the new Single Image Edit Mode. If you double-click an image in either the Browser or in a Windows Explorer/Finder window, or by default pressing the Return key in the Browser, takes you to this mode. In this mode when you return to the Browser you are asked to save a .psd or .tiff depending upon your Preference settings. Your edits are not saved.
- In the Browser press one of the A S D hot keys or click on the Edit button. With this method your edits are saved in the .on1 file when you return to the Browser and you are not asked to save a new file.
I don't know if this is by design or if it is a bug but creating an HDR will also use method 1. What I do is just return to the Browser from the Create HDR window then jump right back into Edit with a hotkey on the .onphoto file.
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Rick, you can create versions while in Edit mode. I did it just a few hours ago. :)
The arrow keys are position sensitive. The mouse pointer must be in either the preview area or in the filmstrip for them to change images.
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I won't be able to check that until tomorrow. I'm assuming that option is in the Filmstrip?
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With or without the Filmstrip. Look under the Settings menu. I use the hotkey Cmd/Ctl-'.
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I cannot Reply to specific help. So.
I was able to create a version and I do use the settings menu.
After I did that, I was locked into one screen. I couldn't tell if it was the version or original. I looked all around for a filename.
I am including a screen shot from my Edit mode, where filmstrip is not available, just as an example.
Ultimitely, I was able to get out of the funk. Right this minute, I have an Edit and no filmstrip.
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That picture was not from just after making a Version. It was after Saving an HDR series.
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.onphoto files cannot be versioned. The only way to have multiple copies is to duplicate them.
Also, I've found that when you go directly into the Edit module after merging the images to create the HDR it is the same as using the new Single Image Edit Mode. When you finish editing all your edits will be baked into a psd or tiff file and they do not get saved in an .on1 sidecar so you cannot change them by going back into the editor with the .onphoto file selected.
What I do is return to the Browser immediately after the HDR is created. If I went to the editor I will Cancel the session to avoid the save process. I haven't made any edits so canceling doesn't loose anything. Then I will return to the Editor and everything works normally.
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This was not the version example. Today, I just created this HDR and saved it.
It is possible however that I did try to make a version out of an HDR that I had been working on before. But, still after I did make a good version, I no longer had the Filmstrip, nor the Gridview.
I am out of all the problems right now, except the picture I just provided.
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You still haven't said how you are getting into editing the image. There are multiple methods of doing so and leaving the editor is different for each as well as what you are allowed to do while editing.
- Double-clicking an image to go to Single Image Edit Mode causes the Save dialog to be shown when you return to the Browser. Edits are not saved in the .on1 sidecar file, they are baked into the exported (saved) file. Creating HDRs and going directly into the Editor from the HDR Create HDR dialog works this way too.
- Pressing the A/S/D key or clicking the Edit button saves edits in the .on1 sidecar and you are not asked to save your work when you turn to the Browser.
- From another program via a plug-in. With this method you cannot see the Filmstrip or save versions as the edits are returned back to the calling program and are not saved in .on1 the same way as when editing normally. You cannot return to the Browser only to the calling program. You can't see the Filmstrip as you cannot change images or add new layers when using the plug-ins. Arrow keys won't work here for that reason.
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Brian: Pressing the A/S/D key or clicking the Edit button saves edits in the .on1 sidecar and you are not asked to save your work
I will have to look up Single Image Mode when I get a chance. Don't know why and what it is or how it works.Pressing the A/S/D key or clicking the Edit button saves edits in the .on1 sidecar and you are not asked...So I click edit after I Merge the HDR and it saves to .ON1. Don't click the Save after the Merge?Thanks.0 -
Single Image Edit Mode was the company's answer to why double-clicking an image file in the Explorer/Finder took you into the Browser rather than the Editor like other programs do. Why it works the way it does is a design decision the company made.
In the Create HDR dialog there is an Open in option to tell the program where to go after it merges the images. If you tell it to go into one of the editor modules, Develop or Effects, then you go into Single Edit Mode. If you want to keep your edits you need to cancel the edit session without making any edits and return to the browser. You have to cancel to avoid the Save dialog and an unwanted tiff or psd. Now you can return to editing the .onphoto file and your edits will be saved normally.
I find it easier to just have Open In set to return to the Browser.
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Personally, if you are hdr-ing a series, you would want to be in edit mode when you save the merge.
And, I don't know why when I finish that edit, I can't just carry on to go next to a new picture.
But, the rules are rules and not bad. I just didn't know what I was getting into.
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