Add a new effect?
I want to add some mist on my photo and I have found a suitable (I think) free "Effect" for it but do not know how to add or use it on my On1 RAW 2020-2
Thanks
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Are you aware that 2020 already has a Fog option in the bottom half of the weather filter?
If you want to use your overlay instead, I tried to find a video on how to do it, but there aren't any for a fog overlay On1. This video is about replacing the sky and should get you started. You'll have to reduce the opacity of the fog layer otherwise it will just replace anything under it.
I'm not sure how it will work with a black background, if it was white, it would be easier. Later on, I might borrow your photo above and try it myself.
https://www.on1.com/videos/replacing-skies-compositing-on1-recorded-webinar-2/
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Thanks Rick
I am aware of the weather filter and have tried it. Its Foghorn is good but produces evenly spread fog, as I require more like uneven mist. Metamorphis has couple of nice overlays but the bunch of 12 costs 19.90, so for me, for one picture, that is not an option.
I will start looking into the link you provided
Kalevi
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Kalevi, I have a similar fog effect from Photomorphis. The easy way to pull this in is to import it and use as a texture.
Select
File - Manage Extras - Click on Textures Tab - Click on Import ( lower left corner of Import tab )
After clicking import navigate to the folder where the file resides and select it/them and click open and just follow the rest of the steps.
Once you have a texture added just go to Effects and add a Texture filter.
Click on Category and scroll down you should see a divider line that says "My Textures" the texture you added should be below that.
Select the one you want and have fun.
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Thanks so much
So far so cool. Now I just have to find if I can re position this effect on my picture. If I try with Transform the whole picture moves in relation to canvas. But Thanks anyway so far
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Kalevi, If you're using Textures, all you can do is scale it, you won't be able to move it around. If you use the Weather filter you have more options like transition and rotation. When using the Layers method you have full control of everything, but of course, it's the more difficult option to use.
In my opinion, you should learn how to do this in layers. It may take a while this time, but next time it will be quick and easy.
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Well, I tried but it appeared just as a B&W picture covering the original image...
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What is it you tried? Do you try using any of the blending modes? The screen shot below was done with your fog image imported as a Texture per David's instructions. I know it doesn't really fit the photo but it's just for demonstration. :)
After adding the Texture effect I changed the Blending Mode to Lighten, set the Mode to Replace, played with the Opacity, & scaled it a touch.
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Sorry if I am confusing you, but using the mist image as a texture works just fine and Rick's explanation that I cannot use Transform in texture was ok too. My comment was to Rick's suggestion for me to try to learn how to use the fog/mist image as a layer was the thing I commented, because if I try to use the fog/mist image as a layer it functions as a B&W image just covering the landscape image. So what I ment was that I cannot figure out how it can be used as a layer
Hope this gives the picture what I was trying to do
Kalevi
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Try play with the opacity and different blending modes. I just shut down ON1 for the night but I'll give it another try as layers tomorrow and see what I can come up with for you.
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OK, 1AM is technically tomorrow. ;)
Yes, you can do this with layers and blending modes. I loaded your fog image as a Layer on top of the same photo as I used before. Next I used the Move tool to resize and position it over the background layer. Change the Blending Mode to either Lighten or Screen. That causes the black portion of the top image to be treated as if it was transparent allowing the full lower image to show through. After that its a matter of adjusting the normal Tone & Color controls and opacity to suit your needs.
If you are unfamiliar with Blending Modes Colin Smith has an excellent, free eBook called Layer Blend Modes you might find helpful.
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Wau, yes that's it. Thanks a lot.
Kalevi
PS. Just a minor thing. I can see a very thin white borderline if I adjust the Fog layer smaller than the canvas. It changes into dotted line if I tilt the layer. Is this a known phenomena and is there a cure?
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Wow, lots of progress since I was last here.
If the edge of the Layer is causing a sharp transition, just use the masking brush to feather it. Not sure about the dotted line without seeing it, maybe the same would help.
(That is, selecting the fog layer and brushing its edges.)
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Do you still have the Move tool selected? If you do those white lines are so you can see the edges of the image when the top image would otherwise blend in with the lower.
If you do not have the Move tool active please post a screenshot showing what you are seeing. I'm not seeing this on my Mac. Also, what happens when you export? Does the borderline show up there? If not I wouldn't worry about it too much but I would report it to support. Definitely report it if it shows in the exported image.
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Thanks Brian
So here is what I am trying to do. Doubled the fog layer trying to achieve a layer where the thickest fog is in the middle. When I try to connect these two my preview shows that they touch, because if I move either one one step more towards center I have overlap, but the navigation shows a gap. Do not know which one to trust so I export it. I attache the exported image here. There you see that the gap which the navigation view shows is real and if you look carefully you can see the dotted lines at the edges of the two layers.
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This is the exported image
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Sorry forgot
I switched to the View to check if the dotted lines disappear but no.
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I'm pretty sure the white line is from the overlap of the two layers each with its own blending mode change causing the blending to get multiplied when they are combined.
I would start with just the fog image. Duplicate it and get it aligned the way you want without any other editing changes. Export that to a new jpeg then use the new fog file with your base image so there is just the one blend.
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I don't know why the dotted lines are still there. That needs to be reported to support. You should zip together the image file and its sidecars. Post the zip to a sharing site like Dropbox then include the download link in your message to support so they can see it for themselves and have something to work with.
Here are some guidelines for submitting a report: https://on1help.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018405111-How-to-submit-a-problem-to-ON1-Tech-Support-A-Step-by-step-Guide
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I can confirm that the line is caused by the overlap of the 2 fog layers. In addition, if the layers don't cover the entire image you'll get visible edges. It would be better to resize the fog larger than the image so that you can move the fog higher up, and then use a masking bug to reduce it at the bottom.
About the dots, I agree with Brian, they shouldn't be there.
This is an example of using one fog layer and a reflected masking bug to focus the fog in the center area.
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Rethinking what I wrote above, you don't need to start by creating a new jpg for this. You can load your base image and the fog into Layers. Duplicate the fog layer, position the 2 as needed, then merge the 2 together. Now you can adjust the blending mode and continue on.
Please post your finished image. I like the concept and would like to see the final product.
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I was thinking about the white line that happens when the layers overlap. That's caused by both layers each having a blend mode applied and they are additive when overlapped.
If you were to add those 2 fog layers, adjust them as you like, then merge them together, then you could use one blend mode for both and eliminate the problem.
To do that, just turn off all the other layers (after adjusting the fog layers) so only those two are active, then select MERGE VISIBLE. After that you will have only one fog layer to deal with.
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Great minds think alike. :D
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Now then
I have followed the tip to join the two fog layers (other one inverted), exported and bring it back as a layer. The Edit display shows the following:
A lot improvement as only the bottom of the layer shows dotted line. A small curiousity is that if I flip the layer vertically there are two dotted lines upper and bottom. Well back to the one dotted line situation and try export.
The exported image looks like this:
Result: No dotted lines and the fog layer as should be.
Thanks for help
Kalevi
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Kalevi, you didn't need to export the layers, you can merge them right in the layers stack.
Is that line at the edge of the layer? If that layer was the full size of the image would that line still be there?
If you can reproduce this dotted line consistently, can you write it up as Brian suggested and open a Support request? You can link this thread to it so On1 can see your examples here. Don't forget to use the link in Brians post to include the hardware info.
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Thanks
The line is at the edge of the layer and it exist even if the layer is full size, although it has changed to be a straight line, instead of dotted, since I sat the rotation back to zero.
Kalevi
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