importing photos from Mac's Photos
Mac's Photos is not an option under Source for importing images into On1. So how do I import from there?
I'm not the Mac guy, but this might help...
Once you have activated the link as Rick’s post indicated, it works the opposite way to what you would expect: instead of calling Photos from ON1, you have to call ON1 from Photos using ‘Edit In’. Choose ON1 from the list.0
If you want to move your photos from Apple's Photos program to ON1 you'll have to Export then from Photos to your Pictures folder where ON1 can see them.0
Raymond: I tried to find Edit In in Photos. The closest was Show Edit Tools under Image. It was grayed out until I highlighted the target files. When I then clicked on that, suddenly the files moved to the left side and a very large rectangle with a white field showed up on the right with a big gray triangle with an exclamation point in its middle. So that didn't work.
Brian: Export gave 2 options, the first didn't export RAW. The second, Export Unmodified Original didn't work until I checked Export IPTC as XMP, then it gave me the option to put it wherever I wanted. I put them into a Pictures folder and went to On1 to import them. But although Source could see those files, they were grayed out. So now what?0
To edit your photos with ON1 from within the Photos app click the circle with the 3 dots in it. The ON1 plug-ins are in the pop-up that gets displayed.
Exporting will not give you the raw files, it will convert them. This allows you to keep any edits you've made in Photos prior to moving the photos to ON1.
If you want your RAW files you'll have to extract them manually from the Photos library. Find the file Photos Library. It should be in your Pictures folder. Right-click it and select the command Show Package Contents. The library file is actually a special type of folder that keeps its contents hidden. Show Package Contents allows you to get inside the folder. In it you'll see a Masters sub-folder. All your RAW files are in there although they will be deeper in more sub-folders. You could just take all the contents of the Masters folder and copy them to your Pictures folder where ON1 can see them and keeping that internal structure. Or you can dig down to the individual images and move them to an appropriate location within your Pictures folder. You will loose any edits made in Photos with this method.0
If you want to use the method described by Rick's link (stay in Photos and edit in ON1):
Or to export images from Photos (in any format) first highlight them then look under File:0
Brian: I don't want to edit my photos within the Photos app. I want to edit them within On1. When I inserted the camera's memory card, the images went directly and immediately into Photos. Now I want to edit them -- in On1. Seems simple. Why isn't it?
I don't recall ever having this problem before. The only change I can think of is I don't usually delete the contents of the card, so maybe On1 had a better time finding its contents? I don't know. But for sure I never had to use the Photos Library.,0
It isn't simple because Apple hides the contents of the Photos Library and ON1 cannot access them in there.
The real problem is why are your photos being imported to Photos automatically. I'm looking into that. So far I haven't found any System or Photos preferences to control that. I'll post again when I figure out how to get that turned off.
In the mean time, the photos should still be on your memory card unless the import process is set to delete them automatically as well. If they are still there just put the card back in to your reader and use ON1's Import function to import them again. If they have been deleted from the card use the method I described above to move them to your Pictures folder where ON1 can see them.
I'll be back. :D0
Raymond: "Or to export images from Photos (in any format) first highlight them then look under File:"
Nope. When go for that I have three options: to export in TIFF, JPG, or PNG.
Also, I didn't realize that the other method was to allow me to edit within Photo. That was not my intent. Now that my images are in a Pictures sub folder, why can't I open them in On1?0
I found it. When you put the memory card in Photos will automatically launch by default and your memory card should be selected under Devices in the left hand pane. If it is not selected, select it. Now at the top of the window there is a check box for Open Photos for this device. Turn that off. You will have to do this for each memory card you own. Once that is done Quit Photos and I will no longer open and import automatically so you can Import through ON1.0
Once they have been imported to Photos they are hidden within the Photos Library where ON1 cannot see them. There is no way around this, I've tried. ;) Follow my instructions above to either copy them out of the Photos Library or reimport them with ON1 but be sure to tell Photos to ignore that SD card when it is inserted.0
I have tried every possible permutation and it appears that it doesn't matter whether the Open Photos for this Device is clicked or not so long as as soon as the card reader is recognized the images are imported into ON1. They can be imported into Photos if desired, but only AFTER being imported into ON1.
Otherwise you get where I am now. I have tried importing the original ones following your Library instructions but after the last step of pulling the exact files into the Pictures folder, they opened in ON1's browser BUT the images were totally black. So I tried again exporting them to the selected folder in Pictures. I knew ON1 couldn't see images in that folder through Import so I tried the drag-and-drop approach with the .CR2 files. and that worked! Except now all I get is dings when clicking on those or any other file in ON1.
Suggestions for unfreezing ON1?0
Wendy, please contact me directly through email. bdlcs @me . com0
I do not recommend this unless you really need to do it and have an idea about what you are doing! There may be side effects that cause problems with Photos, e.g. by On1 creating Sidecar files in the folders.
It is possible to access the masters of photos imported into Photos by some fiddling. (Tested on Mojave, no idea if would work on Catalina)
- Use Finder to find your Photos library, probably in Pictures
- Right click on this and select "Show Package Contents"
- There is a folder Masters which holds all the master images, this is arranged in date format
- Drag Masters to Side Bar to add it as a Favourite
- In On1 it should now be visible as a Folder that can be added as a Catalogued folder, once added it seems possible to just browse it as for any other folder.
I have only done some quick tests that suggest that this will work but I haven't explored it in detail and wouldn't have minded if the Photos Library had got messed up, not that important to me and should have been possible to get back from Time Machine anyway. If anyone needs to do this in anger to retrieve photos I would suggest copying the Photos Library and then working from this version to copy photos to a more normal location. This would minimise the chances of messing up a working Photos Library.0
Thanks David, I'm working with her offline for now. She does not want to use Photos at all. What hung her up is its default of automatically importing when the SD card is inserted in the card reader.
In my testing ON1 could not access anything inside the Photos Library regardless of how I tried to make them visible. Links, hard, soft, & alias, do not work. The program sees the links but will not follow them. I did not try dragging to the sidebar though.
I'll post a summary of our solution once we have it.0
I think that it was dragging to sidebar and then adding as catalogue folder which then uses Finder to find folders.
Another warning, I deleted the catalogued folder after testing and somehow lost the other test catalogued folder I had set up on 2020. Might be Beta issue, finger troubles or side effect of adding the Photos Library link.0
I've gotten Wendy going now. For those following along at home her initial problem was that the Photos app was automatically importing her photos when an SD card was inserted in the reader and she didn't understand that she could still import to ON1 after. The solution to that is to turn off the setting in Photos to import automatically for each SD card.0
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