Edited skies with Blend-Mode "Overlay" are black when exported
Hello,
Dylan K. posted Oct. 2nd some Plus Courses about blending modes. In the 3rd video he is schowing how to get more contrast, color etc. into a sky, when you're using a darken local adj. and then blend it with overlay mode. If I do so in PhotoRAW, it works fine, but exported it's black. Does anybody else have these effect? What am I doing wrong?
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A couple of things to check are where you do the exporting. Sometimes exporting from the Edit module can cause problems. Usually it is recent edits that do not get exported but other things can happen as well. It is best to export from the Browser if you are not already doing that.
Another thing is your video card settings if you are a Windows user. Make sure you have the latest drivers from the manufacturer's web site and that it is configured correctly. There are some tips at https://on1help.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000551608--OpenGL-3-3-and-Later-is-Required-How-to-Update-Video-Card-Driver-Windows-Only-Photo-RAW. Searching this forum for video card drivers will return several threads containing discussions on how to configure drivers.
If none of the above helps resolve the problem you should contact support with the Submit a request link below. Zip together your raw image file along with any sidecar files then post it on a sharing site like Dropbox or We Transfer and include the download link in your report (the files will be too large to attach to the report). You'll also want to include the information described at https://on1help.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018405111-How-to-submit-a-problem-to-ON1-Tech-Support-A-Step-by-step-Guide.
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Could this issue be related to the following comment from Dan's Blog post which would indicated need to turn off GPU render in preferences.
"The GPU render checkbox allows your video card to be used for secondary rendering such as preset previews, building cache previews, and exporting. This makes these tasks much faster. The option should always be on unless you experience garbled or black output. If that occurs, your video card may be underpowered for the task at hand. Disabling this option falls back to the CPU and should resolve the garbled or black output."
https://on1help.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360035750991
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Good Morning,
thanks for the tips. But, none of them helped.
@Brian: It doesn't matter if I'm exporting from browser or edit module.
The video card settings are as recommended.
@David: I've uncecked that GPU render box. Then exported. The effect was visible, loading, loading... export... but, no change. So, the article of Dan ain't help as well. But. I've edited another picture. Just added a local darken adj. to the sky. Blending mode overlay, exported, with all the different ways you suggested, result, no blacked out sky, the sky I wanted.
So I will open a call at support with the problem files. Maybe they can figure it out.
I mean, it's not really a problem, because ON1 has so many ways to get a colorful, dramatic sky, but I'd like to know, why this happens.
Thanks so far!
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Good morning,
I was just searching the forum due to GPU Render posts, and I was finding one of mine. I totally forgot to post, that ON1 could find out, what was causing my problem with that blacked out sky when exported the photo. This only happens when in that local adjustment also noise reduction slider is used. If using the noise reduction in another loc. adj. or the effect filter, the problem doesn't occur. Just tried again, it's not fixed yet. So if anyone facing this problem, don't use Noise reduction in loc. adj. with blending modes... ;-)
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I just gave this a try on my Mac and I'm not able to reproduce your problem. Would you be willing to post one of your images that shows it so I can try exporting on my system? That will identify if it is a problem with Windows vs Mac or maybe something on your system.
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Yes, of course, give me a moment. But you should be able to reproduce it. That's what the engineer
HI Markus,
Thanks for sending over the info. We were able to track this down to the noise slider in local adjustments combined with he blending mode. I have a bug in for it now. But your work around would be to reset the noise in that filter. Then you can add another Local Adjustment and paint in the noise where you want it keeping that on normal blending mode.
So, just take a picture, loc. adj. to the sky, masking, blend mode xxx, noise reduction, export. In edit module it should look like it should
and so when exported
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https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/15WFD17gE22yS3HzviKWpd8hAj7K7gk4M
Oh, still the folder for the support online. There you go.
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Still not able to reproduce the problem with your files. It must be a Windows issue. I tried it with and without the GPU Render option turned on. Are you running the 8289 release?
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Running the latest, yes, 8289, but it was also in the versions before. Has nothing to do with GPU render. Did you move the noise slider in combination with a blending mode? It only occurs when using blending modes.
But, if it's only hapening on Windows, I wouldn't be suprised...
Something else, from time to time, my language setting is jumping back to auto, in my case german, but I don't want the german settings. I think your Auto-Setting is english, isn't it? I wouldn't be suprised too, if it's a windows problem...
Maybe I must buy a MacBook. Is a pro in 13" sufficient? It's no problem to use an ext. monitor, or do Apple-Users need an expensive docking station, like Surface-Users... ?
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Yes, I did that with one of my own photos before I asked for yours and I've rendered your P1000089.RW2 file with its adjustments without any problems. I can move the Noise slider all the way to 100 and It still renders correctly on my Mac.
I'm not saying there is no problem, only that so far I have not been able to reproduce it. Obviously ON1 has recognized there is an issue and passed it along to the engineers; that's the good news. :) I just like to keep on top of these kinds of things.
Thanks for lettings us know about it. Nice shot BTW!
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;-) Thanks, just tried again, it doesn't matter if the noise slider is moved to the right or left, the affected area is blacked out. Whatever, there is more than 1 workaround, and as you said, ON1 got it in mind.
Maybe you know someone with Windows, let him or her try, or someone who is reading this post.
Bye
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Verified. On Windows...
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Haha... Great!
:o)
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Well, I'm sorry to say I've finally duplicated the problem. It's weird that your image rendered correctly for me. Oh well, computers, right? ;)
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