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Speed Still Not Enough 2020 January

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    Have you added an SSD for ON1's Scratch space? That will give the program a noticeable performance boost. I also moved the PerfectBrowseCache to mine to remove that storage space requirement from my boot drive. If you add one be sure to give it its own I/O connection. Do not connect it to a hub or daisy chain it with another drive. The idea is to give the scratch space its own I/O channel not used by anything else on the system.

    When exporting your blended image did you export from the browser? Exporting from the editor doesn't always catch all the recent edits as they have yet to be written to the .on1 sidecars and stored in the internal database. Returning to the browser allows that information to be fully updated prior to exporting.

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  • Kevin Pinkerton

    KP H, I can sympathize. Before Christmas, I began looking for another solution myself. I was not interested on PS and my use of  images in layers and blending modes is somewhat basic. So I downloaded trial packages of all of the other major players and looked at the results of how they processed my Nikon .NEF raw files. I did also download adobe's Raw to DNG converter figuring that would give me an idea of f PS would have processed my raw files. 

    There was a clear winner and now I am using Capture One 20 for my basic workflow. C1 is a very mature product and it acts like I would expect a good editor would in the way of performance. And I even had to turn off C1's hardware acceleration (GPU) because of a weirdness I was seeing with their LCC processing. Wacom tablet works smoothing and fast too. An area that C1 is missing is the ability to use blending modes (there is no blending modes) and they do not support putting a different image on a layer. 

    I am paid up until next fall on ON1, and I do use it when I have to. For now anyway.

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  • KP H

    Ok I wanted to report back.  I moved the "Scratch Disk" to a Solid Sate IO on my board and thats specifically for the scratch disk.  Now when I use the browse and apply presets and export, its much faster.   Same goes for using edit and exporting directly from there.   Also after selecting a preset I close the side car.

    I also tried editing and then switching back to browse and then exporting, its much faster.

    I am also using Capture One and that seems to still be faster but it has no layers /painting like ON1  atleast no yet!!

     

    So,kudos Brian Lawson

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  • Ray Miles

    Following advice about the scratch disc, I found a big improvement in speed and usability. I am a new user. The cost of On1 plus the SSD was less than the annual LR subscription, so I will be happy to ditch that when it expires in a few months.

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  • Subias Gilles

    Of course, using an external SSD for caches & scratch improve some more speed, the question is:

    "why ON1 PR needs an external ssd to be efficient and others photo softwares don't need an SSD ?"

    The problem is certainly in the ON1 system/program scripting-coding (I don't know how to tell it in english).

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    The ON1 program does thing much differently than other programs so its system needs are different. If you look through the Adobe support forums you'll find it is recommended there to have a scratch drive for Photoshop. That's something I did for it years ago.

    Photo RAW does not NEED a scratch drive but as has been noted having one improves performance. The analogy I like to use is if you have the OS, the program, its scratch space, and your photos all on the same drive you wind up with I/O bottlenecks. It's like taking a 4 lane highway and funneling everything down to a 1 lane, 1-way bridge. Traffic gets backed up. Having the scratch space which Photo RAW uses extensively on its own I/O connection is like having your own carpool lane that nobody else can drive in.

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  • KP H

    I will also add, WINDOWS updates will hog your resources and make ON1 not responsive or slow it way down.  Disable updates or disconnect from the wifi / internet.  

    I just experience a windows bloat update, and On1 was stalling and not responsive.  Windows update also hide my onboard RAM DRAM chip that I had made the scratch disk, had to go into boot menu to re institute the RAM DRAM ship 256GB then redo the scratch disk for On1.---JUST A FYI windows is terrible!!

     

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