Publish to file system
Hi! I'm coming from Lightroom and I'm currently trying to find a workable workflow with On1. My Lightroom workflow is like this:
- Import photos from camera
- Cull
- Edit
- Mark finished photos with a color label (i use the green color label in Lightroom for this)
- Periodically export all green photos I haven't exported so far to my NAS so I can watch them on the TV or my mobile devices.
I'm struggling to make this work with On1. Importing, culling and editing are straight forward, as is marking stuff with a green label. All works similar to Lightroom (except that editing is a lot more powerful than what lightroom offers). Now to the export. Lightroom has a fantastic thing called "publish services" where you can basically create a filter and then publish everything that matches this filter to a destination (e.g. some online service or simply a folder structure). The really neat thing is, is that publish services keep track of what was already published and what was not. They also recognize if you edited a picture after you have published it and will re-publish it.
This is extremely comfortable for me, as I can just edit my photos,click a single button (literally 1 click) and all green photos I have added or modified are re-exported to the folder structure on my NAS. With On1 so far I have only seen single exports or batch exports where I have to select the files I want to export. Is there some way to get this export step automated?
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No, unfortunately there is nothing in ON1 to match Lr's publish feature.
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Yeah I thought so, I studied the manual and searched back and forth, so I haven't had much hope.
Then again I find it strange that no program except Lightroom offers such a thing (i also tried a few other programs like Luminar and Exposure). There surely must be some need to export photos you edit in On1 to other places in an efficient manner. After all these photos are probably supposed to be seen by somebody and not just rot in your RAW editor forever. How is this supposed to work with On1?
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What do you mean "How does this work"? You've already described it in your first post. Select all of the photos and click export, or On1 does have an option to publish to SmugMug if you use that.
In Export, you can set up your preferences and save them as a preset, so we're talking 3 clicks max after the photos are selected.
As for selecting those photos, you can search by color if you want or just make an Album and drop each photo in there as you finish it.
If you need a program that works like Lightroom, I suggest that you use Lightroom. If you're interested in using On1, you need to learn how On1 does things. You should already know it won't be the same.
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Hi Rick, I'm sorry I have written in a somewhat misleading way. My intention was not to complain and I did a poor job of explaining myself. You are right that different programs work differently and some work needs to be spent to learn how to do a given task efficiently in a program.
You offered a few possible workflows, thank you for that. For book-keeping I could for example mark photos I have edited and not yet exported with a yellow flag and then mark them green after export. When I later choose to re-edit a photo I can mark it yellow again so it gets re-exported in the next run. I can manually re-create the folder structure I need after export (as On1 seems to be exporting everything to a flat folder, only, no subfolders). It is certainly doable. But it's quite a bit more manual work than I would like, hence my question if someone has come up with a more _efficient_ way of doing this in On1 (maybe even with a plugin or some external helper tool if this functionality is not built into On1).
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Sorry, there are no plugins or extensions for On1.
Yes, it's just a matter of figuring out a workflow for a new program. You do have color flags, but also stars, metadata and Albums to help you organize things.
For myself, I add a 'Done' tag to the photos I'm finished with. Photos that I intend to edit I add to a 'Hold' Album so that they all get grouped together. All I need is one click on the Album and all of those photos are visible at the same time.
Good luck finding a method that works for you.
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Is it possible to trigger events (i.e. export with preset "TV" ) from the command-line? so you could trigger the export and the following datechange with a find command on last modified .on1 timestamp.
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Photo RAW does not have any command line interface that I'm aware of. There's nothing about it in the User Guide.
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But this or some kind of API would be the simplest way to overcome some of the current limitations - even ON1 could benefit from community-created scripts.
Even with Lightroom and also now with Poto Raw I have an additional step im my workflow after exporting the jpeg files "find . -name '*.jpg' -mmin -240 -exec jhead -exonly -ft {} +" which changes the timestamp of the file to the EXIF date.
With the same search pattern it would be easy to find all modified .DNG files, export them via batch and change the timestamp afterwards. The possibilities are endless :-)
Brian Lawson: as an community Moderator - could this be an interesting Idea for the "Photo Raw Project"?
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You can put it up and see what other users think about it.
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I tried to detect changes via commandline, but if you modify the .on1 file contents, ON1 doesn't reload the data from the sidecar. I don't know yet, how to trigger it manually.
My idea: Search for Modify Date in the ON1 File and set the colour Flag to RED. The entries in the on1 file would be:
"Label":"Red"
colour-flag
"Rating":2
*-Rating
"UserFlag":4
0=off
4=heart
"MetadataDate":"Mon Nov 23 18:51:02 2020"
last change of metadata
--> either creation or raw-processing, date-change, rating-change,...What I'm using to detect "unexported" RAW files is a Bash-Script (I'm using it in PENGWIN for Windows because I'm bad at powershell):
:/mnt/d/FOTOS/Aktuell/2020$ find . -type f -iname '*.jpg' | sed 's/.jpg//g' > jpg
:/mnt/d/FOTOS/Aktuell/2020$ find . -type f -iname '*.dng' | sed 's/.dng//g' > dng
:/mnt/d/FOTOS/Aktuell/2020$ diff dng jpg | grep '<'
the result is a list of filenames where you have a DNG but no JPG file
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