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On1 2021 Big Sur

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    I asked yesterday on the Plus Forums if 2021 would run natively or if it will have to run under the emulator. Here is the response from Nathan, "We’re excited to get our hands on the new technology and explore what it means for our future. very promising hardware!"

    Not really an answer to my question but reading between the lines I'm guessing they don't even have a developer's machine to work on it with. I expect it will be running under the Rosetta II emulator for a while.

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    For anyone interested in the techie details of the new M1 processor and its SoC check out this article from Howard Oakley's The Eclectic Light Company blog.

    CPU, GPU, RAM memory (shared between the processors) & more all on 1 integrated chip. No more moving large quantities of data between RAM & VRAM for the GPU to work with and no having to send the results back the other way means improved GPU processing performance.

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    There are a couple of users on the Facebook Group and I believe here that have been running it on Big Sur. The current installer does not work with it but updating the OS over an already installed copy of Photo RAW seems to work OK.

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  • David Price

    Thanks for the link to Howard Oakley's blog.  It certainly sounds like a brave new world. 

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  • Ray Miles

    I was asking about the Big Sur OS, not the new M1 chip. Please do not get the two confused.

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    There are some users who have been running it on the Beta Big Sur. Right now the installer does not work under it so you have to install the program before upgrading the OS. I'm sure the next ON1 update will be compatible since that will be after Big Sur has been replaced.

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  • Ray Miles

    Hi Brian

     

    I believe you are a Mac user. Do you plan to upgrade to Big Sur now or wait a bit?

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    I'm going to wait for a bit. It was several months after Catalina was released before I upgraded to it.

    I subscribe to Howard Oakley's The Eclectic Light Company blog. He writes several free utilities that I find very useful and his blog is about the internal workings of the OS as well as some very interesting art history stuff. Generally 1 Mac post and 1 painting post per day. He wrote Big Sur: Read this before upgrading on Tuesday. There are some major changes to the file system again that will be very difficult to back out of should an early adopter change his or her mind so I'll watch how things are going for a bit before I make the jump.

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  • Ray Miles

    Thanks for the link Brian.

    I don't usually wait months before upgrading the OS, but agree it might be wise not to jump in too rashly.

     

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    I usually don't wait quite that long either. It was the major changes to the file system in Catalina and reports of people having problems with it that made me decide to wait on that one. I'm glad I did. It allowed me to plan my transition better as I knew I would be loosing several programs that wouldn't run on Catalina like Photoshop CS6. I eventually made a bootable backup of my Mojave drive to keep access to those programs when needed. That in turn allowed me to clean up my boot drive and remove things I knew wouldn't work after the upgrade before performing the upgrade.

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    There have been some on the Facebook groups that were running it under the Beta and a couple upgraded to the release version yesterday. They haven't reported any problems running it so far. They had already installed ON1 before upgrading so I haven't seen anything on the installer yet.

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  • Carl Harsch

    I'm running Big Sur.  Installed it last night.  ON1 is running with a minor glitch.  In the sidebar, my internal hard drive shows up, but can't browse.  I can go to file>browse and access the files fine, however.  Fortunately, for me, my images are stored on an external drive and this is not a big deal to me.  I tried reinstalling ON1 to see if that helped, but it didn't change anything.  Yes, ON1 installer worked fine on Big Sur.

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    Try adding a new Layer to an image then navigating to the Macintosh HD. Hopefully, the OS will ask you if you want to allow ON1 to access the drive and if it does, that should clear up the problem.

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  • Carl Harsch

    No, didn't really work completely.  I have given it full disk access and it shows up as such, but it's still not right.  I'll keep playing with it and see if I can figure something out.  Like I said, not really a big deal as I can access what I need.

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  • Chris M

    Perhaps I should have waited to upgrade to Big Sur, but... Anyway, seems to be working OK apart from none of  my custom printer profiles are not available in the soft proofing function. Tried importing them, but the import function only sees a limited set of profiles. Affinity Photo has the same problem, but Capture One works fine. Prefer using On1 but having to switch for now.

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    Take a look in Capture One's Application Support folders. There's one in your user account at ~/Library/Application Support/ and one at Macintosh HD/Library/Application Support/. I don't know the name of C1's folder but it should be obvious. Look through all the sub-folders and you should be able to find .icm profile files. Then you can copy them to ~/Library/Application Support/ON1/Common 2021/Profiles. You'll have to restart the program before it will see them.

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  • Chris M

    Thank you for that Brian, much appreciated. The only place I see my icc profiles is in the library/ColorSync folder, with nothing in the C1 structure. Interestingly I also don't see a Profiles sub folder in ON1 Common 2021. I was under the assumption that all programs looked in the library for profiles. Photoshop and Lightroom reference them no problem. Anyway, I've got enough alternatives to keep me going for now!

    Thanks again

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    There are multiple places to look and not all programs look in all places.

    • Inside the program itself so you'd have to dig through the application's Package Contents. They're rarely stored here.
    • Macintosh HD/System/Library/ColorSync/Profiles
    • Macintosh HD/Library/ColorSync/Profiles
    • Inside the Application Support folders at the system & user levels

    Photo RAW will look in all Application Support/ON1/Common xxxx/Profiles folders and some of the others. Sometimes they need to be in both the system level & the user level depending upon where you want to see them — exporting color profile options or color proofing or camera profiles and probably printing. I don't have a printer so I haven't looked for where those might be located.

    Take a look at each place in ON1 where you have a list of profiles to choose from and compare its contents with the contents of the various places you find the .icc profiles and you can figure out when you need to copy one from one place to another and where.

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  • Mike Heacox

    Not compatible with Big Sur on my MacBook Pro. Cannot see any local disks, not even the Shared folder. Disk access granted in System Preferences, but does not work. App crashes instantly if I try to select an .arw file in Finder and open it in On1. 

    So my experience says On1 Photo 2021 is NOT COMPATIBLE with Big Sur!

    Sorry.

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    Mike, you'll need to talk to tech support about getting this fixed.

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  • Ray Miles

    Calll me rash, but I have just updated to Big Sur.

    I can confirm that my internal SSD is not recognised, even after invoking Full Disc Access and restarting, although my external SSD is (it only contains photos). Fortunately, all the photos on my internal drive have been catalogued, so I can access them that way. So this is definitely one to report to Support.

    I am unable to duplicate Mike's issue with ARW files. In Finder, it would want to open them in Preview by default, but when I select On1 2021 instead, it opens the unedited original without issue. Within On1 2021, all my edited ARW files are appearing as should be.

     

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  • MICHEL COLLOT

    I have the latest Big Dur 11.0.1 and on1 photo raw works great (I found it slower). But it works I have photo stored on NAS and on external hard drive. I can edit all.

     
     
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  • ramesh ramchand

    Have been running ON1 Raw 2021 on MacOS Big Sur since the ON1 Alpha was released and Big Sur Public Beta releases.

    Apart from some initial issues I am not have any problems.

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