Olympus Camera Owners PLEASE READ
How many are running ON1 2022 or any other version and use Olympus Cameras but don't have the pleasure of seeing and using Olympus CAMERA PROFILES !
I have used raw files from OMD EM 1 Mk 1, 2 and 3 OMD EM 5 Mk 1,2,and 3
and they all are the same, NO Camera Profiles in ON1
I would love to hear from you if you own an OLY and can't use/see camera profiles
We were told at the last update, Profiles for Olympus are here !
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The release notes for Photo RAW 2022 state, "Resolved an issue where Olympus raw files were not being opened as tier 1 cameras". The only place profiles are mentioned is in relation to new lenses.
There are several cameras which are Tier 1 but do not have the matching camera profiles. My Canon R5 jumps to mind right off the top and there are others. All we can do for now is tell support that we want them for our cameras too.
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One reason for Linear RAW profiles needing to be camera specific is if using them in Lightroom/Adobe Camera RAW where such profiles are filtered by camera. So while I have set up profiles for the 3 different Old EM models I have owned, on the one for the actual camera appears when I process an image.
Whether there are more differences I am not sure.
Richard, one disadvantage of using Olympus Workspace to create Tiffs is that when you get them into On1 you will not be able to use NoNoise to its best advantage as that needs to be working on the RAW data.
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Linear Raw profiles specific to the camera
There is no such thing. In Photo RAW, the Camera Profiles are all just LUTs which are applied to the RAW file before any other editing you do. Linear RAW says, "do not use any LUT at all". It shows the RAW data exactly as the raw converter interpreted the RAW data.
When you set a profile in the camera you are telling its RAW processor how you want it to display the jpeg preview it creates. Setting the camera settings to none or not making any adjustments there is equivalent to using Linear RAW in the processing software which is why it gives the closest match.
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When you all say 'camera specific profile' are you talking about a profile created with the ColorChecker system? That is a slightly different beast. It is still a LUT but it is more like profiling a monitor only this time you are creating a profile for the camera's sensor under those lighting conditions.
That will get you the best start for color balance.
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I’ll have to look those up.
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Brian, if you happen to watch Morganti's video he incorrectly says On1 does not have a Linear Profile. I and several pointed out to him in the comments that indeed On1 does have a Linear Profile in the list. I think he corrects that in a followup video he made.
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Anthony Morganti's followup video is
How To Use Linear Profiles in Luminar, On1, Affinity, PhotoLab 4 & Exposure X6
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The profiles produced by Tony Kuyper are DCP profiles whereas On1 only handles ICC profiles, so not possible to use his profiles in On1.
As far as I can see these profiles produce an almost identical result in Lightroom/ACR as Linear RAW in On1, basically applying a linear contrast curve rather than one tailored to particular cameras, plus no colour changes. The only difference that I am aware of between the profiles produced for different camera models is that the name of the camera model is built into the DCP profile by the ways that such DCP profiles are built using Adobe's DNG Profiler. It would appear that if a profile has a camera model built in then that Lightroom only offers it as an option when processing RAW files taken on that model camera. Hence the need for all the "camera specific" profiles.
As a test I displayed the same RAW file in ACR and On1 with just the appropriate Linear RAW profiles applied and they appeared virtually identical. So I think one can just use the standard On1 Linear RAW profile on RAW files produced by any camera model.
Basically the advantage of going with Linear RAW is that it leaves the full range of post-processing adjustments available to you. With normal profiles a contrast curve is applied and the impact of that is difficult to reverse if your processing requires that.
The Tony Kuyper blog entry is at https://tonykuyper.wordpress.com/2021/07/23/the-linear-profile-a-new-beginning-in-light-room-and-camera-raw/
The Video is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CLtubEw-xU
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Thanks for the links guys.
What I've said about profiles is in agreement with what both of those sources say. Morganti talks about the color profile being a curve. According to Hudson Henry Photo RAW uses LUTs. Either way they amount to the same thing—an adjustment to how the image is presented on screen to give it a different look and starting point for editing.
If you take a look at 5:03 in the Morganti video you can see the set of profiles that comes with Lightroom. It does not have an option for Linear RAW. This is why you have to create a Linear RAW profile for Lr to use. And when I talked about creating a profile for the camera's sensor that is why you have to profile each camera for Lr. My understanding of how Photo RAW processes the RAW files from different camera types is that it handles each differently so the Linear RAW profile it gives us to use should be specific to that model. We'd have to ask support to ask the engineers to be certain.
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... I just updated to 2023. To learn, there is not the complete list of camera profile showing up. This affects Olympus cameras (E-M1m2, E-M5m2 and others) and the same with my Lumix GX9.
These profiles are showing up:
Olympus E-M5m2
Camera Portrait
Camera Vivid
Olympus E-M1m2
Camera Portrait
Camera Vivid
Panasonic Lumix GX9
Camera Portrait
Camera Standard
Camera Vivid
There is certainly more than just two or three profiles?
I would love to work from the camera profiles as I think the on1 profiles are way too saturated or causing color casts...
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