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Can't find my last work

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    When you added new Layers your edits got saved into a new .onphoto file. You won't see them in the jpeg you started with.

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  • Subias Gilles

    Ok, thanks; but where may I find this ".onphoto file" ? The program don't display it, and I have perfectbrowse and cache on my external SSD; in catalogs I can't have it because the work is not finished so the work is not yet in "cataloged folders" etc, in my "mac mini", desktop, or user, I can't neither find it. Sure this is a problem so easy, but I can't solve it, even reading the user manual.

    As you stay in USA and me in France, I'll read more  of your help tomorrow when you'll be sleeping and me waking up ! 

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    It should be in whatever folder you had selected in the Browser when you started editing the jpeg. That may not be the same folder as the jpeg you started with if you had done an Advanced Search or had the Show Sub-folders option turned on.

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  • David Kick

    Subias, If the .Onphoto  file saved in the same directory as the original file one thing that might make the .onphoto easier to find is Sort the directory by file name.  When sorted by name the .Onphoto image will be next to the original. The sort dropdown can be found in the lower left side of the Grid view window.

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  • Subias Gilles

    Ok, my photo and .on1 files are on the desktop, so the problem is elsewhere; I open the jpg in ON1 (2022), go to edit mode, the 2 layers seems here, but as I try to select one or go further in develop, PR is unactive. See my captures screens. Thanks.

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    I open the jpg in ON1 (2022), go to edit mode, the 2 layers seems here… That is not possible. JPEG files do not support Layers. The only type of files which do support them in Photo RAW are its proprietary .onphoto files and .psd file. The screenshot above shows 2 Layers so it is not the .jpg file, it must the an .onphoto file.

    Have you gone through the Delete Settings and Reset ON1 Photo RAW 2022 processes? Give those a try first. If it doesn't help you'll have to contact tech support.

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  • Subias Gilles

    Hello Ontario !

    If I understand what you mean (jpg files do not support layers), how was it possible to add the map layer (jpg) to the photo layer (jpg too), masking/brush the car windows and replace them by fiting the jpg map layer onto the "holes" I made ? I'm sure I'm missing something; I agree ON1PR maybe don't create an .on1 file using JPG, only Raws, if this is correct I'll try again (2 jpg layers, reach a perfect adjustment, then save the result, even if it will be impossible to go back in the process for some adjustments, as with Raws). Deleting settings not now, I guess the problem is not here. Maybe should I convert first the 2 jpg in psd (don't know if this is possible)?

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  • David Kick

    Subias what Brian means is you should not see layers if you open your original jpg photo. Whenever a layer is added to an image and save it the .onphoto image is created. The layers should only be visible when you open the .onphoto image in On1. When you do a screen capture could you please include the upper left corner of the program where the file name is visible?

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    What David said. A screenshot showing the entire program window would be best.

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  • Subias Gilles

    Thanks helpful guys !

    First I must say layers works for jpg; I made another test, quite same photo layer 1, and same map layer 2, I brushed/mask to insert map in car windows, fine, then use "finish" button (I had'nt use it before*) and quit PR.

    Open it again clicking on .onphoto file, I am able now to return to my adjustments as they were. The problem was (and of course I don't know why) the file created was not "photo.onphoto" but "photo.on1" (same icon).

    And even jpg layers, I can display them, as adjustments, using the .onphoto file.

    Glad to see I can recover my work without having to restart it from scratch.

    *maybe this is my error ?

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    You've misunderstood what we meant by jpgs don't support layers. A jpeg image cannot; the file format does not support them. This is why the .onphoto file gets created. This is true even if you start with a RAW file. When you clicked the .onphoto you chose the file with the layers, one of which is the original jpeg you started with.

    .on1 files are the sidecar files which hold your edits. In this case, because the .onphoto file has the same name as the original jpeg file they both share the same .on1 sidecar file but each has its own section inside of it. You can see this if you open the .on1 file in a text editor. Most of it will appears as gibberish but that is just the editing info saved as a binary block of data but being interpreted as if it was ASCII text. You will see in plain text where each file (the .jpg and the .onphoto) file saves its own edits.

    I'm glad you were able to get it figured out and find your Layered work. Ask if you have more questions.

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  • Subias Gilles

    Thanks again ;-)

    Sure I have more questions, but new topic "Line tool" !

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