Raw Photo Performance M1 Mac mini (8GB)
What is the expected time to fully open a Canon R6 Raw Image or similar?
I'm asking because the latest version on On1 that was released today takes roughly 13-14 seconds to fully load a raw image with my M1 Mac Mini (8GB of ram).
I'm really confused because the same image only takes 2-3 seconds to load using Pixelmator Pro on the same machine. It also opens really quickly using the OS/X preview.
The 14 seconds is the time from when I click the right arrow (to go to the next image) till the time the filename at the top changes to the correct file name (when it fully loads).
The 14 seconds is way too long to use for the purpose of throwing out bad images, and scoring images. So I'm assuming I'm doing something wrong.
I did send a tech support request and they said it's how the raw engine functions, and they don't have internal benchmarks I can compare against.
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RAW files do not have any colorspace. Photo RAW uses ProPhoto internally for doing its editing as it is the largest space so you don't get as much out of gamut issues from the processing.
It is interesting that they are in different spaces and I have to wonder why that is.
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It is probably a camera setting, my Olympus cameras allow colour space to be set to SRGB or Adobe Colour. I guess that it is linked to in camera JPGs, you can export a JPG from On1 in ProPhoto colour space.
It shouldn't impact On1 RAW processing but something is for that image and that was the only metadata difference I could see.
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Jason, if your camera has a colour space setting that allows Both SRGB and ProPhoto can you try taking a couple of test images, one with it set to SRGB and one with ProPhoto. Then try loading RAW files in On1, that would at least confirm or eliminate camera colour space setting as reason for extended load time on some of your images.
If that does turn out to be the trigger then that would be something specific to report to On1.
If not then I have run out of ideas.
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David,
If I recall correctly I did turn on the HDR PQ setting between when I took 466 and 519 so that could be related to what you're seeing. I definitely turned it on at some point because I remember changing that setting.
I'm going to take some images with the HDR PQ setting on, and then off to see if it makes any difference in loading time.
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Here is the image with HDR PQ Setting on.
https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0d9ul21nFC-vEqBfh72t9D8hQ#0C7A2195
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Here is the image with HDR PQ Setting off.
https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/06dV-1cDrFqd92Yovp0c_L7GQ#0C7A2196
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I took a picture with HDR PQ Setting On, and a picture with HDR PQ setting off. I uploaded both of them, and they're both pending approval
HDR PQ Setting On -> 0d9ul21nFC-vEqBfh72t9D8hQ#0C7A2195
HDR PQ Setting Off -> 06dV-1cDrFqd92Yovp0c_L7GQ#0C7A2196
This does seem to be the root cause so I'll report this issue to On1 Support.
Thanks for your help along with Brians in tracking down what was causing this performance problem. :-)
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Looking at the EXIF data from both photos, 519 has n/a for the colorspace while 190 specifies sRGB. That explains why PR assigned ProPhoto to 519.
Another difference is that 519 has an embedded jpg of 978888 bytes while 190's is 4100623.
Both images have all multiple exposure settings off so no in camera HDR and neither of them were compressed. There's only 1MB difference in size.
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Brian,
I'm guessing On1 Photo would take around 30 seconds to open up an R5 Image if you enabled the HDR PQ Setting on your R5 camera.
That would be painful.
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I've got some tests I shot using it, I just have to find them. I asked for the program to flag them in the Metadata Info panel. If they had done that we could use the new Search features to find them pretty quickly.
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