Using NIK Silver Efex from ON1
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I use ON1 only for post processing. I have some Topaz programs that I can click on an image and select edit in and send the image to the topaz program. I also have the NIK collection. The one program in the NIK collection that I can not send to from ON1 is Silver Efex. Do I need to purchase the plug-in program from ON1 to do this?
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Silver Efex 3 is not compatible with Photo RAW due to how it works. There is an article on what works and what does not at https://on1help.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4409706848269-Hosting-Photoshop-Plugins-in-ON1-PHOTO-RAW-2022-
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Thanks. I assume then that I need to save the image as a jpeg or tiff, open it in Silver Efex, process as I want, save it and then open the image again in ON1. An around about way to use Silver Efex but I understand the issues and will just work with it. Thank you for your rapid response.
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Pamela, are you running Windows or Mac?
I have just tested Sending To Silver Efex 3 on my iMac and it works sending a Tiff with On1 settings applied. It doesn't work if you try and send original but that is down to Silver Efex not working on RAW files, or at least on my Olympus EMD files.
The support page that Brian referenced is out of date. On1 changed the way that plugins are accessed in the first update to the original 2022 release and now you can use Silver Efex 3 and most of the other NIK plugins as plugin filters from within On1.
The one problem I do find with On1 plugins is that Topaz applications do not like being called in same editing session if another plugin has been called before. This could be a Topaz issue as I have just used Luminar AI as a plugin followed immediately by Silver Efex Pro 3 and this worked as expected with two new layers.
Not sure why you cannot Send To unless it is a RAW file. Have you loaded Silver Efex standalone check that it is working and not wanting any licence codes etc, that is something that can be an issue?
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I have just sent in a bug report pointing out that the support article needs updating.
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Thanks, David.
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David,
I am on Win 11. I have an image saved as a tiff. If I right click on the image and go to Edit In and browse to the DXO - NIK collection the only applications I can see are Analog, BIN, Color Efex, Dfine, HDR Efex, Perspective and Sharpener.
I can go to the apps in WIN, go to DXO and NIK collection and Silver Efex is there. So I can open the program and import my image but I can not do it through ON1 2022.1.
I'm not sure what you mean by "did I install Silver Efex standalone." I just downloaded the collection from DXO and installed them.
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I meant run Silver Efex standalone, which you have done. I have seen issues where first runs of an application have asked for licence codes etc but the windows were hidden behind On1 window.
I assume that you are in Browse when you right click and are looking at the Send To list (not Edit In which is for opening in part of On1 itself)
Are you then just seeing entries for Send To Analog etc?
What happens if you choose Send To other Application at the bottom of the Send To list and then try navigating to Silver Efex in wherever Windows keeps its applications, do you see Silver Efex there? I had to do this for my tests as I had never run Silver Efex via Send To before, after doing this once it remains in the list of Send To options.
Have you tried using it as a Plugin from an On1 editing session? You will need to link your Photoshop plugins to On1 if you want to do this. As a Mac user I am not sure where Photoshop keeps its plugins so I can't give you instructions for this.
It is strange that you are having problems on a Windows system when it is working for me on an Apple Silicon iMac with all the issues of mixing native applications and those that need Intel emulation to run.
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David,
I checked the DXO forum and found out that the Silver Efex Pro 3 and Viveza are located in the "BIN'' folder under the NIK collection in file Explorer. I was able to go to ON1, "send to another application", browsed out to the BIN folder and to Silver Efex and was able to send the image from ON1 to Silver Efex. Viveza is also located in the BIN folder. I don't know why but now I know how to go from ON1 to Silver Efex.
Thank you for your help. Maybe this will help someone else.
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Glad you are sorted.
I think that Viveza and Silver Efex are the two NIK applications that had a major upgrade in latest version which might be a reason why they are located in a different place, but why on Windows and not Macs as I see them all in the same folder.
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David,
In my previous comment I meant to say "send to another application." All seems to be working now that I know that two of the NIK applications are located in the BIN folder.
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