Can't copy mask between layers in ON1 Photo Raw 2022
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Here's a workflow to adjust backgrounds that I've used successfully in other apps, but doesn't seem to work in ON1:
- export current image
- create mask in photoshop
- create new layer in ON1 with mask image
- create luminosity mask
- copy mask
- on the image layer, add filter e.g. colour adjustment
- paste mask into filter
The result of this is a new luminosity mask, instead of the luminosity mask based on the imported mask image.
Any ideas why this is happening?
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Some screenshots showing us what isn't working would be helpful.
I just loaded two aircraft images into Layers. I created a Luminosity mask from one of them then copy/pasted it into the other Layer. I'm getting the exact same mask as was created from the 1st Layer.
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here's a screenshot
as you can see, the pasted mask in the Color Adjustment is a luminosity mask created from the photo itself, not the mask I copied from the other layer
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How is it not working? Can we see the image too please?
I'm assuming you are trying to mask out all but the sky? Have you tried Photo RAW's Mask Sky feature to create a mask for the sky? You'll have to Invert it so the sky is unmasked.
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When you paste the Luminosity Mask from the top Layer into the Color Adjustment filter in the bottom Layer, a brand new Luminosity Mask is created. They are procedural masks created by the image they have been created from. It is exactly the same as clicking the Lumen button in the Color Adjustment. The program is working correctly.
I think you're adding too much complexity to your workflow. If all want is to create a mask to apply to the Color Adjustment so only the sky is affected you can use the Photo > Mask Sky on the Color Adjustment filter then Invert it. Only the sky will be affected.
If you don't like the results from the Mask Sky command I would use the AI Quickmask.
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Sorry, I don't see how the program is working correctly here? I click copy in one place, and paste in another, but what I wanted to copy wasn't copied, instead a "behaviour" was applied, which as you say I could have also achieved by simply clicking on "Lumen" in the mask editor.
The image used was just an example, "Mask Sky" doesn't work with e.g. people photography in a studio environment. And while your AI masking tools have improved, they don't match Pixelmator and Affinity Photo in speed, precision and ease of refining a mask.
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Yet another oddity: If I work on the externally created mask (see the dot in the screenshot), the edits are actually copied across, but still on top of the lumen and not the copied mask
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You are not copying a bit image, you are copying a procedural mask. When you paste that process into a new location it reruns the procedure again. This is how the program is designed.
You should also know that you are not talking to ON1 here. I'm just another user like yourself. It isn't "my" program.
Yes, if you make manual adjustments to the Luminosity Mask, they will also get copied and pasted as the mask now consists of two parts — the procedural luminosity portion and the manually painted portion.
If you'd like to make your original RAW file available for me to download I'll create a mask for you using just Photo RAW then send you the .on1 file so you can apply it to your copy.
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Thanks for the offer, but as I've mentioned, the used image was just a sample
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The point was to teach you how to use the tools in Photo RAW. If you're not interested then there isn't much more I can do to help you.
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I know how to use the tools, thanks.
It's just easier and 10 times faster to do it in Pixelmator 🤷♂️0 -
Back to your original example, rather than using the Luminosity Mask feature, try creating the mask so a bitmap mask is created. The AI Mask would work wonders on that top Layer image. Another option would be to use the Color Range tool to create the mask. The color range does not get copied, the mask itself does. Same with the AI Mask. Those should copy/paste without any problems.
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