A Video On Photo Restoration Would Be Interesting
There is a lot of great content in the Plus library - but nothing (apart from an old pdf written document) about restoring photos in ON1. I found an entertaining live stream on YT from a year or so back - but that was more about digitising old photos and then adding vintage effects etc to make them look old, which is nothing like I would do (or many others when restoring old photos, I would imagine!). Fixing colour casts, tears, creases or defects in photos, a dusty slide, restoring accurate colour to faded prints - ON1PR is surely capable of all of these. I'm just really surprised that in all the video content available in the library, nobody has ever covered this?
How would I get this suggestion to someone running the Plus content?
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If you are a Plus member post your suggestion there. You can also send an email message to any Plus member by clicking on their name. Dylan has recently posted about the macro course, you could make your suggestion there or to him directly.
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Brian - I don't come in here often and clicked on the ON1 PLus link in my account to get here, so I thought this was the place to mention it - apologies if it's not. I'll find a post by Dylan then and address him directly. Still good to hear if others think its a good idea though, I hope. Thanks for the tip.
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I'd be interested in seeing a video on restoration. I think it's a great idea.
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Cool. Well in the meantime I sent Dylan a message about it. I'm sure he gets tons of 'em so hopefully he'll get back to me in a few days.
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Weird. Someone else did post agreeing it was a good idea but that's gone now.
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Oh, of course. Yes well I wasn't intending to be class-ist in any way :) - wherever they would want to put it, I think the idea of photo restoration might even bring in new customers - so even a freebie on YouTube or similar would be really illuminating I think.
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It's not a video, but there is an E-Book (PDF) in the Plus section of the On1 Bookshelf.
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Hi Rick - yes, I referred to that in my post. I found it hard to follow to be honest. I find I learn far easier with being shown and seeing examples. When ON1 has produced some great videos over the years on doing all kinds of photography related things - I really think there would be a market for one on retouching.
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As I made many old scan slides, I think there is not any video helping in the long workflow.
First depends of the scanner; second, adjustments in ON1 PR are not the same for B&W or colour (negative film, 24x36 slides or various sizes the photo has been taken etc). Erasing dust, and all the imperfections need to be done mostly 1 by one, dust in one photo is not exactly on the same places in another one. If you use Silverfast for scanning, it has a pretty tool detecting dust and you can on the go erase them, but I don't trust in it, I prefer use perfect eraser in ON1 PR, I use scan without any adjustments from the scanner software nor VueScan nor Siverfast and I adjust in ON1 (colour, dust, hight lights, crop also because when you scan -cheap scanner ±200/300€- you often get parts of the film or slide you don't want).
So a video can't explain all the process needed for get the best result, you have to learn by yourself !?
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There are many videos on youtube with different methods for scanning slides and photos, so that's fine. But there are videos out there on the internet for LR and PS users to restore old photos and scans. But not for ON1. Every photo is different of course - but so is every landscape, architecture photo, portrait photo - its still possible to create video tutorials on the general principles - the different parts of ON1 PhotoRaw that would be used, and how someone could use them. For example - a slide has lost some of its colour information and is many shades of pink/red. It's possible to restore that colour information - and I'm sure ON1 can do it, so what in ON1 would I use? Which retouch tool would be best to use on a torn or creased photo? There are lots of things a video tutorial could address...And then you practise yourself, and that's a good way to learn.
If ON1 can produce videos on how to improve the look of a landscape photo (which they have) they can do video on restoration, which is covered far far less on the internet. I don't really understand why you don't think it would be possible. But I respect your point of view (I just don't agree).0 -
Just to let you all know - I just had a positive response back from Dylan and he said he would see what he could do to start that ball rolling. :)
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I have been messing around with some old photos. I have some slides I scanned years ago, and lots of prints. Most of these are colour prints from the 1980s, and some were printed on that textured paper that was o fashionable then.
I looked at a plug-in that supposedly deals with such issues, but it was way too complicated to use and besides would not work in conjunction with PR.
I have now come up with a solution that goes some way to dealing with this issue. Within PR, I began by doing some denoising. I then applied Gaussian blur: on this image level 4 seemed to be about right. Finally, I ran the image through Topaz Sharpen AI. The Too Soft severe seemed to work best.
I should point out that the original image was just a 2x3 colour print shot on a point and shoot camera in the mid 1980s using flash. I don't have a working scanner at present, so took a photo of the print on my Sony a6300. I must say that I am quite pleased with the result.
All this was trial and error, and I also did a certain amount of dust and scratch removal.
I too would be interested to hear and see what Dylan comes up with, although I am not a Plus member, so may miss out! And of course, would be interested in others' comments.
Original (cropped to remove what surrounded the print):
Edited version:
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Certainly did a good job of removing that textured look - that's a pretty creative way you came up with. It could just as easily be a video on YT as a Plus course - I did mention to Dylan that a restoration techniques vid might encourage additional users to ON1 (the only ones on YT currently seem to be all about LR) so there might be more worth in making it a free one. Anyway, hopefully 1 of the togs he had in mind will be able to do something.
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Here is a suggestion for a workaround. Take an old photo (usually postcard), use ON1 No Noise to reduce noise, effects to improve black and white, add dynamic range, tonal range etc etc plus local brushes to clean up and improve the image. Then export to a jpeq file with resize, the size cannot be too large as the source are usually postcard photos. Then drag the jpeq file into this free software ( there are others out there ) and you will get a colorise photo in seconds that you can download and do further tweaking :
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I personally can’t stand colourised photos. They all look the same and very artificial. But I am aware it’s a matter of taste. In fact I often go the other way with some of my colour snaps, where the colour has faded too much.
I sometimes run my old images through Topaz Gigapixel AI. Sometimes it can improve matters, sometimes not. It can work even when one scales down an image0 -
I can see some fun to be had in colorising photos - I follow a couple of people who do it professionally on Facebook and they CAN be excellent. But its not really something I would have much time for - most of the photos I have access to for restoration are colour already - either damaged, faded with age or some of the colour tones have left the slide material, rendering it more red than it was.
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