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ON1 Photo Raw 2022 keyword list exported to use in PSE 2021 as a keyword list

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    While an .xml file is a text file, it has a specific format so you can't just change the file extension to convert the exported keywords file to something Photoshop can read. You can try the Embed Metadata command. That will put the keywords either into the image file itself, it that format can hold them, or to an .xmp file which Ps should be able to read them from.

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  • Linda Hamilton

    Yes, I have embeded the metadata into the pics in ON1 but when I open them in PSE the hyarche of the keywords is broken up into individual keywords...no longer nested.  This is the problem I am trying to overcome by exporting the ON1 keyword list and then importing the list into a PSE catalog.  The problem ls in the file extentions being different. ON! is a .txt extention and PSE is a .xml extention and converting them does not work.  Was hope maybe a photoshop user out there may have some experience with this.  I suppose most photoshop users organize in Lightroom first then turn to ON1 Raw...

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    As I previously explained, even though .xml files are all ASCII text, they require a specific format that defines the type of data along with the actual data. The exported keywords list does not include the definitions so simply changing the extension will never work.

    Short of writing a custom program to convert the exported .txt file into a true .xml format that matches what Photoshop expects I don't know of any way around this.

    You might ask tech support directly and I would also take a look the the Photoshop forums to see if there is a solution on that end.

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  • Carl Traub

    I'm not familiar with PSE. Maybe you can try exporting the list from PSE to review it's format in XML to be sure you're nesting the keywords properly?  That would hopefully show you the format needed for nesting keywords. It might be easiest if you created some new unique keywords on an image in PSE to make them easier to find in the export.

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    It isn't a matter of how the keywords are being nested. The problem is that Photo RAW does not export the list in an XML format that Ps can use. XML stands for eXtensible Markup Language. Just like HTML or a word processor doc there is more to the file than just the text data you want to work with. You can't change a .txt file extension to .html and expect a web browser to understand it; it is missing all the markup part of the language that the program needs to know how to display that text. The same thing is true for the XML format. All Photo RAW is exporting is an indented text file showing the keywords hierarchy. It is missing the markup portion that tells Ps what to do with the data being imported.

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  • Carl Traub

    I'm aware of the file formatting differences.  Linda stated that her keywords weren't nesting properly in PSE.  Exporting the keywords from PSE might show how the keywords are nested within the HTML file. This would show her how they need to be formatted for proper import to PSE.

    [I'm assuming that PSE allows nesting of keywords, since that's what Linda is looking to do.  But I mentioned, I'm not familiar with it.]

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    The nesting is only part of the problem. It is the non existent XML markup that is the problem. Without the markup it is a corrupt .xml file and no program will accept it.

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