On1 Photo RAW 2022 EXIF does not show camera information
The information tab on the ON1 PhotoRaw 2022 program is showing my camera and lense informations as expected. (Olympus / Zuiko brand) However, after exporting the photo as JPG image, the camera and lense infos are missing in the exif data of the exported JPG file. In the corresponding export window i did select all metadata options.
Are you aware of this kind of problem or did i miss someting?
Regards Werner
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This is working correctly for me. Even when I turn off the Metadata pane in the Export panel I still get the camera and lens info.
If you're looking for it in the Develop module, you're right, the program doesn't apply the lens profile a second time. By the time you get to the jpeg the lens correction should already be baked into the photo.
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Thank you Brian for your fast response. Maybe i was not clear enough while describeing my problem. The problem will be seen in the finally JPG image created by ON1. I have seen this while using the good old Exif-Viewer.
Further investigations from my side have shown me that my Olympus OM-D M1 Mark III does not supply the expected camera Exif data on the ORF RAW file in a way it can be fully interpreted by Exif-Viewer. In Adobe LR, the final created JPG output generated from a ORF RAW file does show all expected camera infos in Exif-Viewer too.
On1 Photo RAW 2022 is able to get out the camera infos from the supplied ORF RAW file !!
My conclusion:
Olympus RAW image is supplieing the camera information in a way it can be interpreted in ON1 Photo RAW 2022 but is not implement by ON1 in the final generated JPG file while Adobe LR can get the camera infos out of the RAW image und implement them in the final JPG file.
Regards Werner0 -
Show me that same screenshot with an exported jpeg in the folder and selected so I can see its metadata please. Or, if you don't mind can you make that ORF file available for me to download so I can play with it myself?
There have been other discussions here about the format of Olympus RAW file's EXIF data. You might want to review them to see if they relate to your problem.
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I preferre to make available the Olympus JPG and RAW camera files for you. I normaly use Swiss Transfer service from Infomaniak to perform this kind of service. However, a E-Mail adress is needed to initiate this service.
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Posting your email address in a public forum is a terrible idea and an invitation to spammers and virus infections. I suggest you remove it after I contact you.
Most folks here post to sites like Dropbox, Microsoft Drive, or WeTransfer then just post the download link here. No email addresses are needed keeping everyone safer by protecting their privacy.
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I downloaded your files then Exported the ORF to a jpeg and I'm still seeing the camera, lens, and exposure info in its metadata. Can you post a screenshot showing me what you are looking at when you are not seeing the data please? Maybe I'm not looking in the same place.
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I got aware of the reported problem when i uploaded a Olympus based RAW image processed by ON1 as JPG to a photoforum Webserver. Unexpectetly i was no longer able to see some camera infos in the EXIF section of the uploaded images. I have no problem using Adobe LR for the same workflow. Therefore i have tried to isolate the problem with help of good old Exif-Viewer. As mentioned earlyer in this dialog, Exif-Viewer is not able to display camera infos from Olympus RAW images. While JPG output of Adobe LR is showing the camera informations on Exif-Viewer, ON1 based JPG images are not sowing the expected camera infos. This is matching the symthom seeing on the Photoforum webserver.
Exif-Viewer output from JPG generated by LR.
Exif-Viewer output from JPG generated by ON1
It seems to me that the camera information can be stored on multiple places in the EXIF section. ON1 is able to show me the infos within the program but not on the output JPG while Adobe LR is able to show me the camera information also on the final JPG ina way it can be read by Exif-Viewer and the Photoforum WEB application. If needed i can send you both output JPG images as well.0 -
Adobe Bridge, ExifTool, and the Mac Finder all show the lens data embedded into the jpeg's EXIF metadata. This suggests that the problem is with Exif-Viewer.
Since I can see the lens data everywhere I look I'm not sure how much more help I can be. You might want to talk with Exif-Viewer's tech support folks to see why their program can't see the data.
You can also talk with ON1's tech support department directly to see what they have to say. FYI, the folks you work with here on these Forums are not ON1 employees. We are just other users like yourself who want to help.
How to submit a problem to ON1 Tech Support - A Step-by-step Guide
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I forgot to include the screenshots that verify the presence of the data, sorry. Here they are.
The ExifTool's report is in the foreground, black window; Bridge's is in the background.
This is the data as shown in the Finder.
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Yes, you are right, the source of the problem must be a incompatibillity between my Olympus OM-D M1 Mark III RAW file based EXIF data and programs acting the same way as the referenced EXIF-Viewer. From problem determination tasks performed, i have found out a simple solution for my Olympus RAW file workflow process.
Once i have completed the ON1 based image corrections, i simply import the resulting JPG file into LR and export it immediately (without any modifications) as JPG image. The resulting JPG file is showing the expected camera data on EXIF-Viewer and also on the WEB based application used in the photo forum. Thank you once more for your professional support.0 -
I would report this to tech support Werner. If the problem is in Photo RAW's handling of the data then it is a bug that needs to be fixed. From what I can see however, the data looks exactly the same coming out of Photo RAW as it did going into it. Unfortunately I don't have Lr so I can't see what it might be doing differently.
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The following doc my bring some light into the dark. While processing Camera RAW images, ON1 Photo RAW 2022 is changing the EXIF output in a incompatible way for some EXIF dependend applications. (I have tested with Exif -Viewer and Image Resizer for Windows) The problem ist not only related to Olympus. I could reproduce the problem also with Nikon and Sony cameras.
The following doc is generated with help of ExifTool GUI:
NEF RAW File from Nikon D850 as Input for ON1
IFD0 Tag is showing te Make and Model not at the first two positions. (This will be the case for JPG based EXIF files)
No camera informations are stored in the ExifIFD Tag (only Lens informations)
=======================================================================ON1 Photo RAW 2022 Export is generateing the following EXIF data:
The IFD0 Tag is completly missing and the camera information is wirittenin the ExifIFD Tag beside of the lens informations.
I assume that this is the reason on why some programs are not able to get the expected informations out of the supplied EXIF data.
After Adobe LR Import and Export of the ON1 created JPG file, the EXIF data created by LR are as expected again.
IFD0 and ExifIFD Tags are back and are showing the expected content.
I will report this problem to ON1 Tech Support.
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