On1 PhotoRaw 2022: castrated version for Mac, a mistake. Don't buy it if you need to integrate it with Apple Photos
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I just bought the 2022 update now and got a nasty surprise installing it. I did not like that in On1 Photo Raw 2022 the extension for Apple Photos on Macs is not operational, something that was for the 2020 and 2021 versions, which I also acquired and have been using until now.
I don't understand, because other programs like Pixelmator Pro or Luminar AI/Neo do have it when you buy the program for Mac. What is the real reason for selling intentionally castrated software? I understand that they want to sell a professional version, with extensions for the most professional software, such as Capture One, etc. But most of us don't use those professional programs, I don't need to have extensions for many of those programs. As a simple Mac user, I don't understand that with the Mac version you can't continue to use On1 Photo RAW as an extension to Apple Photos, as if it happened in the 2020 and 2021 versions: it seems to me a real mistake.
I don't know if it will be worth it, but as a Mac user, and with what the new M1 or M2 processors promise, what is clear to me is that I am not going to buy any software that does not integrate with Apple Photos, for many interesting things that you have.
Currently for Mac there are other programs that do allow integration, such as Pixelmator Pro and Luminar Neo, for example, which are the ones I will take into consideration in the future, if they do not correct this error.
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Note: I have been a user since the time of Perfect Photo Suite 8, later since On1 Photo Raw 2017. I have been with On1 for many years
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It was announced last year that the plug-ins were being separated from the Photo RAW program and sold separately. It sounds like you purchased the Photo RAW program rather than the plug-in package that you actually need. The software comes with a 30 day, money back guarantee. Use the Submit a Request link below to contact Customer Service and request a refund then purchase the plug-in package and you'll have the ability to call the Photo RAW modules from Apple Photos.
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I understand that this is how the company wants to do it. It's your software, of course, but I hope you understand that a lot of Mac users don't use Photoshop, Lightroom, or Capture One. The only thing we want is what we had in On1 Photo RAW 2020-2021, the integration with Apple Photos. Will there be professionals using Apple Photos? I suppose yes, but most Mac users are not professionals, they are amateurs like me, who do not need applications to integrate with those professional programs. And if much cheaper programs integrate their software with Apple Photos, why don't you?
Understand that there will be more and more Mac users with the M1 and later chips. And that it is not integrated with Apple Photos is going to be a handicap, which in my case is going to be definitive. If it doesn't integrate with Apple Photos, it doesn't work for me. There are alternatives on the market that do. And I'm not going to pay extra like a pro. This is said by a person who has been using your programs for many years, I am not a newcomer to your software. I am very sorry, in these conditions the 2022 version will be the last for me.
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The first thing you need to understand is that it isn't "my software". I'm just another user like yourself and I have no control over the company's decision on matters like this.
If you use Photos for your primary editor, why do you need Photo RAW? Just get the plug-ins instead. You don't have to purchase all of them, just those modules you actually use.
Once again, you need to be directing these comments to Customer Service. No one here can help you besides offering advice.
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I have found a work around that works for me, right click a photo and use the edit with to send to On1 photo Raw 2022 and make your corrections. When finished hit the done button and when the save dialog comes up don't change anything and save. It will show up back in Photos with your changes. If you need to make further changes go to edit first and revert back to original before sending back to On1. It will open in On1 with all previous changes, so you can make additional changes. If you don't convert back first it sends photo with previous changes and then in On1 it adds those same changes again.
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Richard, I'm not able to get it to work either. I'm seeing the same thing, Photos is telling me it has been edited or is still open in another program even though I never saw it in Photo RAW 2022.
Rick, are you sure Photo RAW 2022 is what is getting opened for editing your photo? Is it possible you still have an older version with the plug-in installed on your system?
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That is so strange, I am using a 3 month old MacBook Air with M1 chip and I have only installed On1 PhotoRaw 2022 on this Mac. I also only use On1 as my DAM and main editor. I only edit photos from my iPhone from Photos. I have doing this for months with no issues, I have even taken corrected photos back into On1 to make changes to a photo. I’m not sure why it is not working for both of you, are either of you using the M1 chip and could that possibly be making a difference?
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I'm running an M1 mini. Did you migrate or restore your user data from the old system to the new? That could have brought over residual stuff from older versions.
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I am running M1 iMac. When I try this, having added On1 PhotoRAW as possible application, On1 opens. Sometimes I see the Browse module but it does end up with image I have passed from Photos being available for editing.
However, for me, Photos is passing a JPG even if the original file is RAW, so ok if editing JPGs from iPhone but not if trying to edit RAW files of any form.
All very strange.
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As the family historian, I have also been using this software for many years. Even back in the Genuine Fractals days. It has always been obvious that the major direction for On1 has been focused on professional landscape photographers. Very few of the tutorials or other learning links have been about portraits, scans, or connecting with other software.
If On1 is interested in amateurs using Apple Photos as their organization tool, they must make the whole 2022 app work. Having to go from Effects to Portrait to NoNoise to Resize is not acceptable.
On1 is a great software tool and I look forward to the new AI Resize release. Our digital files include many photos taken with the then new digital cameras. Precious photos that are 640x480 pixels.
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A Plus video was released today on working with scanned images.
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Yes that is a very good video and addresses important things going forward. The problem for me is that whole workflow is based on using Browse . . . not the plugins that work with Apple Photos.
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Everything that was shown can be done with the Effects plug-in. Where he shows work done in the Develop panel, substitute a Tone Enhancer effect and drag it to the bottom of the Effects stack so its processing will come before everything else that has been done in the same way the Develop panels changes come before the Effects stack.
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As Mac user from near 40 years, I'm very disappointed with Apple Photos; Aperture was great and it's a shame Apple let it down. So I don't understand why people use Photos + ON1, ON1 is from some years ago my 90% used photo software (just for fun sometimes I use PhotoScape X, I have Capture One Sony, ACDsee for Mac - so poor -, Affinity Photo, Pixelmator... I don't use them, as ON1 can do most of the jobs I need).
So my opinion is why complicate your workflow using Photos + ON1, it's source of disagreements...
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I have Raw Power too, since I use ON1 I never use it, neither Photos. But as don't speak/write english some of post I read here maybe I understand so much, sorry if my posts/answers are some misunderstood (?).
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As well as Brian's suggestion to use Tone Enhancer to adjust exposure you can also use a Local Adjustment and invert the mask so that it becomes a global adjustment.
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Thank you for the helpful suggestions. The connectivity is important since I only use Apple Photos because I'm trying to make my kids and grandkids be able to find their family history . . . and they all have Macs and iPhones and already know mostly how it works.
This was a tough decision for me because I no longer trust Apple after they abandoned Aperture. On1 is GREAT software, no doubt at all.
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Use Photo RAW to process your photos, then export the finished picture to a jpeg and import that to Apple Photos for your kids.
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(Brian got ahead of me as I was typing! Note that there is no need to export and import, the Share to Photos option does all that automatically)
Sherry, as On1 on Mac includes Photos as one of its sharing options why not use On1 to do all the processing and then share the processed images to Photos for access by the rest of your family?
Just select the photos in Browse and then use Share icon in bottom right hand corner to share to Photos. Handles all the exporting and transferring with photos ending up in Imported category in Photos. You can then organise the photos into Photos albums.
I doubt if On1 will ever go back to having the whole integrated PhotoRAWw being able to be used as plugin/Photos extension. While I have no inside knowledge I suspect one big driver for the splitting up was that to act both as integrated application and plugin/extension means some elements need to behave differently depending on how it is being used, with some functions disabled (Photoshop plugins can't change the image size so Resize would need to be turned off in plugin mode etc). All adds to complexity of PhotoRAW. Conversely plugins/extensions used to call the whole package so separating off individual technologies into their own standalone/plugin products reduces the overhead of using them from Photoshop etc.
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I forgot about being able to Share to Photos, thanks David. Keeping me honest once again. 😀
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