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Advanced search gripes

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    The program defaults to Current Images because of the time that is required to complete the search when searching a Catalog or through All Images. Previously we would have to wait a couple of seconds between keystrokes when typing in the search criteria and users complained. This was the fix.

    Don't close the Search panel, just drag it off screen where it isn't covering the view of the Search Results. Another option is to Select All and drag the images to an Album. Select the close the Advanced Search panel and select the Album and you have access to your photos for as long as you need. I keep a temporary working space Album named ~ so it is at the top of the list and easy to find. When I'm done with the photos the search returned I clear the Album so it is empty for the next search when needed.

    Learn to use the tools the program has provided for you. The Keyword panel works great. You can type in its search field what you are looking for to reduce the size of the list you have to work with making it easy to narrow down the list to just what you need. In your 'alley' example only those Keywords which contain that string will be displayed making it easy to separate alley from valley (they will be on opposite ends of the list!) and double-click the one you want to get an exact match for your search results.

    It does work properly, you need to learn how to use it properly.

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  • Brian Gibson

    Don't close the Search panel, just drag it off screen where it isn't covering the view of the Search Results.
    Not possible. You're always going to have part of an image underneath the search pane.

    Another option is to Select All and drag the images to an Album. Select the close the Advanced Search panel and select the Album and you have access to your photos for as long as you need. I keep a temporary working space Album named ~ so it is at the top of the list and easy to find.

    I've got enough folders on my system without starting yet another one.

     The Keyword panel works great. agreed!
    You can type in its search field what you are looking for to reduce the size of the list you have to work with making it easy to narrow down the list to just what you need. In your 'alley' example only those Keywords which contain that string will be displayed making it easy to separate alley from valley (they will be on opposite ends of the list!) and double-click the one you want to get an exact match for your search results.

    It would be much nicer if the search only searched for the expression you entered, rather than finding every similar phrase. One way of doing this would be to enclose the search term in quote marks. It would also be nice if, when you close the search pane, the program showed you your selected image rather than presenting you with the directory in which the image resides.

    Looks like we have a difference of opinion as to what "properly" means.

     

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    It most certainly is possible, I do it all the time. There are the left and right side columns where it can be placed as well as the bottom of the page.

    I've got enough folders on my system without starting yet another one. Seriously, you can't add one more to help solve the problem you are complaining about? Again, with the name ~ it shows up right at the top of the list making it easy to find and it doesn't interfere with the rest of your list.

    The place to offer suggestions for changes to the program is at the ON1 Photo RAW Project page.

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  • Brian Gibson

    Just had yet another problem with "Advanced Search"

    Looking to do a search for the word "tree" I am presented with dozens of images keyworded "street"

    This is a complete waste of my time since I have many more images keyworded "street" than I have with the keyword "tree."
    I simply do not have the time to separate "tree" from "street" so I've had to reert to the reverse keyword search, which is tedious.
    Some means of searching for an exact search term would be useful, for example defining the exact search word within single or double quote marks i.e. 'tree' or "tree" rather than finding the search term as part of a londer word.

     

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    If you double-click on the desired keyword in the Keywords List, only that keyword will be used to return the Search Results. I have 'tree' and 'Street Art' in my Keywords. Double-clicking 'tree' did not return any 'Street Art' images.

    The key is to set the search to is when setting it up manually.

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  • Brian Gibson

    If we have to search using the "Keyword List" then what is the point of having an "Advanced Search" button?

    I'll take a look at the "is" command.

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  • Brian Gibson

    Interesting.
    My "advanced search" only allows "Contains" or "Does not contain" for the search term.

    No "is" option.

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    Double-clicking in the Keyword List predates the Advanced Search feature. It also sets up the Advanced Search panel to give you the search you want. There is more than one way to skin a cat.

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    Are you running the latest version of the program? Have you tried the Delete Settings and Reset ON1 Photo RAW commands?
    https://on1help.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360049641431-Delete-Settings-File

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    This is what the Advanced Search panel should look like when setting up a Keywords search manually.

    I find double-clicking in the Keyword List to be much faster and easier. Type tree into its search field then double-click the tree entry and you're done.

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  • Brian Gibson

    I had been searching using the "Everything" filter which gives a more limited range of options, like "Contains" or "Does not contain":

    Noe I've changed to "Keywords" I can now access the full range of options, why isn't this the default setting?.
    BTW, searching the list of keywords still returns dozens of "Street" images like this:

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  • Brian Lawson Community moderator

    Yes, that is how it is designed to work. Just scroll down to the actual 'tree' entry and double-click it.

    Good to hear you found the proper settings in the Advanced Search panel.

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