FastRawViewer rating not detected in ON1 Photo Raw 2021
Hi there,
I am using FastRawViewer to cull and rate my photos before I move on to ON1 to actually edit them. I rate my photos 1-5 and based on that I start editing, however in ON1 the star rating doesn't show up (even though it's written to the .xmp sidecar file).
What can I do for ON1 to detect these star ratings?
Thanks!
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This is by design apparently Please see this thread with discusses this same problem. With the right link this time. :D
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Have you tried the 'Read metadata' option in the Photo menu?
According to page 40 of the user guide...
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Thanks for this thread Brian! Very insightful, I’ll try to avoid the import step and see if I have more success.
Thanks!
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Hi Rick, I did, but sadly to no avail…
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You might want to open 2 .xml files — one from FastRawView and the other from Photo RAW. I would do it with copies of the same image to keep things simple.
Open them in a text editor then compare them for differences. The 2 programs may record the EXIF data for star ratings differently. If so, that would be something to tell support about.
This is what it looks like in an .xmp from Photo RAW. Including the leading spaces for indentation.
xmp:Rating="3"
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If I remove the .on1 sidecar file and then alter the ratings in an external program or ON1 both programs see the rating change.
I think at this point my best bet is to avoid the import functionality, if I do that I seem to be able to get the workflow I am looking for.
At some points ON1 only seemed to only write the rating to the ON1 file, but not to the XMP file.
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"I am using FastRawViewer to cull and rate my photos before I move on to ON1"
May you explain why ? Culling and rating are so easy using ON1, why do you use 2 softwares, so 2 workflows and so having problems ?
Just for my curious mind ;-)
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Hi Subias,
ON1 is a great tool for photo editing, but I don't like it for culling very much, it's too slow for me. I want to quickly switch between RAW pictures and see what's sharp and what's soft, which picture is good and bad before I move to ON1 to actually edit the photos that I think are a success.
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Ok, thanks !
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I am incredibly frustrated with the inability of ON1 to correctly recognize .xmp files from Photo Mechanic. I realize that this is not the same as FastRaw Viewer, but the problem is the same. I cannot for the life of me get ON1 to properly recognize changes or even new folder scans. The Read Metadata from Photo option simply erases the changes that were made in external programs - it seems to read ON1's information and then write that into the XMP (which Photo Mechanic picks up INSTANTLY, incidentally). I am willing to wait 20 seconds for an image to load to edit, but that is IMPOSSIBLY slow for culling and selecting.
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Why would you expect a command that says Read Metadata from Photo to read data from somewhere other than the photo? From page 247 in the User Guide:
Read Metadata from Photo: Reads the embedded metadata from a raw file, overwriting any data that might be in the XMP sidecar files. (Useful for times when the metadata appears out of sync with different apps.)
I don't use Photo Mechanic but changes I make to metadata in Adobe Bridge show up in Photo RAW immediately. Have you looked on the Photo Mechanic web site for help too?
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I guess I was confused because ON1 seems to read half of the data from the .xmp files - I have Photo Mechanic, which doesn't touch the .RAW files, only the XMP files (I have it set that way). And, some of the sorting and culling I do with Photo Mechanic does come through - so why only SOME of it? That's the part that had me confused. I also received the direction to try "Read Metadata from Photo" directly from ON1 Support. I'm not quite as thick as you're implying with your "Why would you expect…" comment. I can read. I do understand the distinction between Photo and Sidecar file. I'm just trying to figure out how to use this program in my workflow.
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This is directly from ON1 support from my ticket :
"If the files are RAW files, yes, the 'read metadata from photo' should re-load whatever was written in the XMP.
If you find this isn't working for you, we'd need some original files and sidecars (both xmp and on1) for images that are both working and not working...."
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I wasn't trying to imply that you were thick. I'm sorry if it came across that way.
You neglected to tell us that you used the Read Metadata command on the recommendation of tech support. That makes a difference. Now we have the problem of determining which source is correct – tech support telling you the metadata will be read from the .xmp file which it clearly was not, or the manual which describes exactly what did happen. That is a problem you'll have to address with them.
I recall reading in the past that not all metadata from .xmp files is supported and it depends upon the program it comes from. This could be the problem, there is a possible incompatibililty between what Photo Mechanic is writing and what Photo RAW can process. Send them the files they have requested so they can see it for themselves and pass it to the engineers who will hopefully fix things.
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