side cars added to non catalogue images
AnsweredI maintain a library of images for my camera club. This means that I have regular additions to add from flash drives, which I do using Windows Explorer. However since installing ON1 2023 I find that the images I have downloaded in this way suddenly have ON1 side car files and even if I delete the sidecars, they later reappear.
I don't know what information these sidecars contain and wonder whether it is somehow related to the catalogue function of ON1. I have to use the images to create some reports (eg, listmyfolder command) and had to delete the ON1 side car files to do so. However, they reappear later as already mentioned.
What is causing this and can I stop this function with a change to settings of some kind?
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Victor, I use a similar file structure. I remember where I took a photo but not necessarily when I took it so my hierarchy is by location then by date.
Where keywords shine is something like an airshow. I'm not going to separate images by their airplane subject to keep all the F-15's together and so on. Photos with multiple types of aircraft would not fit into a structure like that either. Adding a keyword for each type of aircraft in the photo allows me too search for all F-15 photos regardless of which airshow I was shooting or when I shot it.
I don't have much use for the AI generated keywords either. I've only added one or two of them to a couple of images. I may turn it off too.
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I was wondering yesterday when I saw thousands of sidecars appear as soon as I launched ON1. They even invaded my Export folder in which I never make any edits. Now I understand, they are created to set up Keyword AI for the Advanced Search function. This can only be stopped by disabling Keyword AI in Preferences. I prefer keeping this option given that the sidecars are negligible compared to the photos in terms of disk space.
All my photo folders are catalogued.0 -
Thanks Brian Lawson. I think I am finally getting through my thick skull how things work. Thanks for your patience. Much, much appreciated.
I still think AI Keywords could be useful for me. If I need a photo with a certain characteristic (surf, face, low-contrast, high-key, etc.), rather than browsing any number of folders looking for a good example, I will be able to do an Advanced Search on images that have AI Keywords "bicycle", "Ottawa", and "urban" to quickly bring up a collection of all my images that were taken downtown in Ottawa that have a bicycle in them.
I know it might miss a bunch, but I can live with false negatives in many cases. If I find one image that looks close, I can pretty quickly switch to viewing all the images in that folder to see if there are other similar images that AI Keywords missed.
But to be truly useful, the AI Keywords needs refining a lot. I don't see any point in AI Keywords currently being found such as "Photograph", "Color", "Habitat"
Sometimes an image of buildings will get AI Keyword "Infrastructure" or "Real Estate", but no AI Keyword with "Building"
I think consolidation of many AI Keywords will help. "Water", "Body of water", "Lake"
I have an image of a person tagged "Shoe", "Sneakers", and "Outerwear", but not "person" or "Human"
I also have an image of pussy willows that has AI Keywords "Child" and "Female"
I have high hopes for AI Keywords. I am sure it will be improved.
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Sorry for delayed response. I have had internet connection problems caused by my internet security application!!
Thanks for the clarification and the time you have put into this discussion.
All the best.
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